Need some Korean Players to help for the Korean version of Graal

unixmad · #1 06-14-2003, 09:36 AM

Hi,

We are working on a Korean Version of Graal, if you speak Korean and understand english please contact me: [email protected] , there will be good rewards for Korean player that help.

Unix.

DragonX · #2 06-14-2003, 10:46 AM

Korean version? What about v3.0? I think you guys should finish that first...lots of bugs with it.

Shiftk03- · #3 06-14-2003, 12:03 PM

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Originally posted by DragonX
Korean version? What about v3.0? I think you guys should finish that first...lots of bugs with it.

Can't knock 'em for trying to make a little loot.

Spark910 · #4 06-14-2003, 03:06 PM

Ah good, getting closer towards the Japan regions. Well when you get to Japan and start adding characters for them, and the chinese, alot more players will play. =]

mhermher · #5 06-14-2003, 04:32 PM

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Originally posted by Kaimetsu

Stefan is coding v3.0. Stefan is not the one doing the translations. Asking a Korean player to provide some translations is not going to slow the completion of v3.0.

i was gonna say that.. but then i didnt want to move my hand to the "new reply" thing

*lazy*

TripleE · #6 06-14-2003, 05:31 PM

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Originally posted by unixmad
Hi,

We are working on a Korean Version of Graal, if you speak Korean and understand english please contact me: [email protected] , there will be good rewards for Korean player that help.

Unix.

I have a Korean neighbor my age. He speaks english,and Korean very good. He doesnt like to do much though. What would the rewards be?

zell12 · #7 06-14-2003, 07:46 PM

Probably a free p2p account.

Soul-Blade · #8 06-14-2003, 09:24 PM

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Originally posted by Kaimetsu

Stefan is coding v3.0. Stefan is not the one doing the translations. Asking a Korean player to provide some translations is not going to slow the completion of v3.0.

Heh, actually Stefan is doing translations as well ;-)

TripleE · #9 06-14-2003, 09:37 PM

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Originally posted by Soul-Blade

Heh, actually Stefan is doing translations as well ;-)

Isnt he just working on the German translation?I didnt know he knew Korean. I know he has hired a few people to translate on Debug.

osrs · #10 06-14-2003, 09:48 PM

Isnt Sage Chaozu korean?

Neonight · #11 06-15-2003, 12:17 AM

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Originally posted by zell12
Probably a free p2p account.

I'd say you're right. When translations were open about two years ago, Unixmad gave anyone who translated a pay-to-play account.

He could just go to www.altavista.com and use the Babelfish translatior or www.dictionary.com and use their more accurate translator. I remember Stefan put a direct link to the Babelfish translator on PMs a while back, but I'm not quite sure what happened to that. Maybe they didn't like the direct linking. o_O

MedievalSmurf · #12 06-15-2003, 12:59 AM

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Originally posted by Spark910
Ah good, getting closer towards the Japan regions. Well when you get to Japan and start adding characters for them, and the chinese, alot more players will play. =]

Ill probably get my one of my best friends who is Chinese to help me create some sort of Chinese languish support on my player world project before Stefan and UNIX ever get around to it.
We will make some sort of tagging that will identify the user’s language.
I also have another best friend that speaks very good Spanish, French and pretty good Japanese (It might be hard to convince him to help me but if I tell him that there is money involved it might be a lot easier to get). Besides him I also got another good friend that speaks Russian that might help me but I would have a lot better chance asking her younger brother to helping me LoL:-) .
Anyway hopefully when ever my player world project ever gets up, there should be some sort of languish support up and running lol:-) .
I am also able to speak French, Irish and English Lol:-) . My French is not the greatest lol:-).

Check out my website @ www.medievalgraal.com

CheeToS2 · #13 06-15-2003, 02:50 AM

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Originally posted by TripleE

Isnt he just working on the German translation?I didnt know he knew Korean. I know he has hired a few people to translate on Debug.

working on? o.o
theres already a german translation file

ZanderX · #14 06-15-2003, 03:24 AM

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Originally posted by Neonight

I'd say you're right. When translations were open about two years ago, Unixmad gave anyone who translated a pay-to-play account.

He could just go to www.altavista.com and use the Babelfish translatior or www.dictionary.com and use their more accurate translator. I remember Stefan put a direct link to the Babelfish translator on PMs a while back, but I'm not quite sure what happened to that. Maybe they didn't like the direct linking. o_O

Babelfish and Dictionary.com's translators are great for single words but horrible for phrases.

zell12 · #15 06-15-2003, 04:47 PM

So many different rules and every word has like 5 meanings. We should all speak French. ;-)

Kramer · #16 06-15-2003, 07:32 PM

I could translate to hebrew =O

Admins · #17 06-16-2003, 01:58 AM

Even for single words such translators are not really good, in most cases it only gives you an idea of what it could be. That can help when understanding someone, but if you would see it in the game you would get spasms or so

For graal kingdoms we made a new translation system that uses tools like gettext and poedit, might be possible to enable it for playerworlds someday too, but would need some work. There is a command line script that extracts all say2's, messages and text in #U(), which then needs to be translated, and depending on the language you choose in the starting screen the npcserver replaces the text with the translation so that you see the translated text.

CheeToS2 · #18 06-16-2003, 02:01 AM

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Originally posted by Stefan
Even for single words such translators are not really good, in most cases it only gives you an idea of what it could be. That can help when understanding someone, but if you would see it in the game you would get spasms or so
For graal kingdoms we made a new translation system that uses tools like gettext and poedit, might be possible to enable it for playerworlds someday too, but would need some work. There is a command line script that extracts all say2's, messages and text in #U(), which then needs to be translated, and depending on the language you choose in the starting screen the npcserver replaces the text with the translation so that you see the translated text.

what is the npcserver doing to translate it?

davidpsy · #19 06-16-2003, 03:01 AM

If everyone spoke the same then we wouldent have all these problems. But then again having everyone the same would be very boring and quite stupid. After reading "the giver" I fully understand why my idea that it is good for everyone to be different is even better.

amonrabr · #20 06-16-2003, 04:22 PM

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Originally posted by CheeToS2

what is the npcserver doing to translate it?

It has *.po translated files, like a database of translations.. The npc server isnt translation it, just replacing the original Server language to the translation selected by the client. Off course all the *.po files need to be translated by hand for each language.. For now GK is in test (allow soon) with.. English, German, Spanish, French, Korean (soon) and Portuguese (soon).

The normal playerworlds has another kind of translation..
Just give to yourself the "rw translations/*" rights. you will see a file like "slanguageOriginal.txt" there.. just replace it for another like "slanguagePortuguês.txt"..
In server option should have:
serverlanguage=English
translatedlanguages=Português(example)
so type "/loadlang" in rc chat to reload the translations into memory

Loriel · #21 06-16-2003, 04:30 PM

I do not really think translations are of much use. Anybody on the Internet should speak English anyways, or they will never be able to talk to others in the community, which pretty much destroys the point of being online.
I for myself play with the English language setting because the German one just isn't the very original and exact thing, and also it is not complete, so I might just use the English thing.
In some other online game, the attempt to localise everything destroyed a good lot of important aspects of the game, while everybody switches his client to English after a while anyways.
The only thing that would have a reason to get translated is a documentation of some kind, but we do not have them anyways.

Admins · #22 06-16-2003, 05:20 PM

A lot of german people tell me that they don't understand english stuff on the website or some stuff in the game. Of course a lot of people know english good, but many people can get faster into the game when it's in their native language. Some text in the game is quite hard to understand.

Kinatt · #23 06-16-2003, 05:26 PM

Going korean next isnt the best business decision, considering the fact that the koreans have a HUGE competition already with great games that are korean only. -.- its like trying to put a nut in a can of nuts and expecting yours to be the first to pick out. when its full of almonds and yours is a peanut.

Spark910 · #24 06-16-2003, 06:03 PM

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Originally posted by Kinatt
Going korean next isnt the best business decision, considering the fact that the koreans have a HUGE competition already with great games that are korean only. -.- its like trying to put a nut in a can of nuts and expecting yours to be the first to pick out. when its full of almonds and yours is a peanut.

But the point is your nut will be picked at one point.

Kinatt · #25 06-16-2003, 06:10 PM

I suppose.. I guess sooner or later.. but still there is many more countries and languages where your nut is by itself.

Shiftk03- · #26 06-16-2003, 08:09 PM

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Originally posted by Kaimetsu
There are enough Koreans for everybody.

Watch one of them get on Graal and pick up scripting. Kaimetsu will have competition but I think he'll pull through in the end!

Judge_S · #27 06-17-2003, 07:25 AM

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Originally posted by Brett White

Actually it's a very smart step, since Korea is one the the biggest gaming countries in the world.

I agree with that.

The only language that I know someone who could help out would have to be either Spanish or Portuguese, since my dad speaks both of those fluently.

Tim26 · #28 06-17-2003, 11:38 PM

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Originally posted by unixmad
Hi,

We are working on a Korean Version of Graal, if you speak Korean and understand english please contact me: [email protected] , there will be good rewards for Korean player that help.

Unix.

unixmad would you need someone that knows russian and english? I am fluent in both and i think a Russian version would be great foor Graal.

MedievalSmurf · #29 06-18-2003, 02:45 AM

I think Graal should concentrate on the 3 most known languages, Spanish, English and Chinese before attempting any thing else.
It’s also not a bad idea to target players for countries with strong currency, like America and Europe.

HoudiniMan · #30 06-18-2003, 03:27 AM

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Originally posted by Brett White

About 2k other people on graal know English aswell.

The point was russian, he just needs to speak english as well to talk to the guys... A fluent korean couldn't help if he only spoke korean...

Tim26 · #31 06-18-2003, 05:35 AM

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Originally posted by HoudiniMan

The point was russion, he just needs to speak english as well to talk to the guys... A fluent korean couldn't help if he only spoke korean...

Thank you for clearing that up for me

unixmad · #32 06-18-2003, 10:52 AM

I think i will open a special forum for the graal translations, so everyone can help.

Russian will be fantastic.

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Originally posted by Tim26

unixmad would you need someone that knows russian and english? I am fluent in both and i think a Russian version would be great foor Graal.

Tim26 · #33 06-18-2003, 04:57 PM

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Originally posted by unixmad
I think i will open a special forum for the graal translations, so everyone can help.

Russian will be fantastic.

Great im very interested please keep me posted would you like me to do anything in the meantime?

TripleE · #34 06-20-2003, 09:47 PM

I talked to my neighbor last night,he doesnt play graal but he wanted to know if the rewards were just graal related or what?I am good with spanish. I am learning latin next year.

Tim26 · #35 06-21-2003, 05:06 AM

unixmad if you see this post then check your email, i have sent you a reply, thanks.

Spark910 · #36 06-21-2003, 05:20 PM

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Originally posted by TripleE
I talked to my neighbor last night,he doesnt play graal but he wanted to know if the rewards were just graal related or what?I am good with spanish. I am learning latin next year.

Chances are they are just graal related. My dads work have some REALLY good translation programs that cost loads, I think its on his laptop for work.

TripleE · #37 06-21-2003, 05:50 PM

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Originally posted by Spark910

Chances are they are just graal related. My dads work have some REALLY good translation programs that cost loads, I think its on his laptop for work.

I baught one of those programs from the government. It takes like 15 minutes to translate a paragraph but it is very accurate. To bad it's only for Spanish,and French.

Spark910 · #38 06-21-2003, 06:27 PM

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Originally posted by TripleE

I baught one of those programs from the government. It takes like 15 minutes to translate a paragraph but it is very accurate. To bad it's only for Spanish,and French.

lol. My dad says that his translates a few such as french, spanish, german, portuguese! He said his company may have a korean update patch, he hasn't got it on his as he doesn't speak to korean clients

Nitkizi · #39 06-21-2003, 09:08 PM

One of the staff at SL speaks fluent Portuguese. I don't know if he would help out though..

Spark910 · #40 06-21-2003, 09:18 PM

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Originally posted by Nitkizi
One of the staff at SL speaks fluent Portuguese. I don't know if he would help out though..

Im sure he may for xyears gold account.