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Old 08-22-2001, 01:20 PM
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Lost Money!!!

I was pearl diving alot for the past few weeks and was careful not to loose any money I had 3986G and i tried to log on to my account and it said " This account is currently in use" or somethin like that and after about 30mins i am able to log on but all my money was gone and got PMs from like 10 people saying Thanks!!!
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Old 08-22-2001, 01:22 PM
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one of two things happend here.
1. You got hax0red and
2. Your scamming
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Old 08-22-2001, 01:24 PM
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1. I got a Firewall after this incident and changed my password
2. This is Graal Related in a Graal related fourm and i want my money back so no its not scamming
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Old 08-22-2001, 01:26 PM
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Old 08-22-2001, 01:27 PM
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Because your topic is graal related you feel you should get your money back?

1. The only way you got hacked is if you were stupid enough to allow someone to gain access to your account info
2. You are lying just to get money
3. You don't have proof so you won't be getting your alleged money back any time this century
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Old 08-22-2001, 01:37 PM
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ok listen , have u ever said anything about ur pass?
i dont know how u could have goten hacked i have 1 thing related to hackin but im not gunna say (give hackers ideas lol)
well i dunno i changed my pass after i found out that i had come on 2001 and was in a dif spot.
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Old 08-22-2001, 02:20 PM
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Old 08-22-2001, 02:25 PM
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Stefan can check the gralat logs and IP logs(does he have this)
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Old 08-22-2001, 04:37 PM
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thats 1 reason to not carry much cash on you.
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Old 08-22-2001, 04:50 PM
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Lately there were a few fake trainers made by people, that whoever opened em got his password sent to them, you tried to cheat, you got punished.
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hehe...i bet he went to a moneymaking page where you have to fill in your pass and account..and i guess he did
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Old 08-22-2001, 05:02 PM
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Re: Lost Money!!!

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I was pearl diving alot for the past few weeks and was careful not to loose any money I had 3986G and i tried to log on to my account and it said " This account is currently in use" or somethin like that and after about 30mins i am able to log on but all my money was gone and got PMs from like 10 people saying Thanks!!!
Well to find out if u have a trojan hit start>run>type in: msconfig open the win.ini tab, unbranch the windows folder, if you have anything after run= then you have a trojan to get rid of it msg me on icq @ 93903709 or aim @ Ne0x2001
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Old 08-22-2001, 05:04 PM
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Yes the normal way is:
1. You download a 'cheat' program
2. You start it without checking the file
for viruses or protecting your computer
with a firewall
3. The programs sends your password (that
is saved in the registry by default) to the
'hacker'
4. The hacker logins to your account and
gives the money to his account or to random
people
5. You realize that your account has been
used by someone else. You go on the board
and complain that your account has been hacked
and you want your money back

Since the other people have got your money
legally its not possible to get it back. The
only way to get it back is to find out who
the hacker is and possible take the stolen
stuff from his account and ban him.

It would probably be good to protect Graal against
crime outside the game, but is that really possible?
Imagine I give you 4000 gralats for free. That's
4000 gralats that unbalance the money on the
server, also other people might say their account
has been hacked and they want to get the gralats
back, should I just give all of them what they want?

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Old 08-22-2001, 05:04 PM
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or you just get a trojan searcher from the web...*like me*
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Old 08-22-2001, 05:04 PM
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Also that only applts to windows 95+ If you have linux, unix or anything pm me and ill give you different way to check
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or you just get a trojan searcher from the web...*like me*
Yea that works too
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Quote:
Originally posted by Stefan
Yes the normal way is:
1. You download a 'cheat' program
2. You start it without checking the file
for viruses or protecting your computer
with a firewall
3. The programs sends your password (that
is saved in the registry by default) to the
'hacker'
4. The hacker logins to your account and
gives the money to his account or to random
people
5. You realize that your account has been
used by someone else. You go on the board
and complain that your account has been hacked
and you want your money back

Since the other people have got your money
legally its not possible to get it back. The
only way to get it back is to find out who
the hacker is and possible take the stolen
stuff from his account and ban him.
Yup sadly most people fall for those stupid things =\ Best we can do is shut them down
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Then again, i'd laugh if the trojan cleaner was a trojan itself
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Old 08-22-2001, 05:43 PM
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hehe...i bet he went to a moneymaking page where you have to fill in your pass and account..and i guess he did
He doesn't fill pass, when he open the fake trainer, the program automaticly send his password from the registry =P
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Old 08-22-2001, 05:45 PM
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Yes the normal way is:
1. You download a 'cheat' program
2. You start it without checking the file
for viruses or protecting your computer
with a firewall
3. The programs sends your password (that
is saved in the registry by default) to the
'hacker'
4. The hacker logins to your account and
gives the money to his account or to random
people
5. You realize that your account has been
used by someone else. You go on the board
and complain that your account has been hacked
and you want your money back

Since the other people have got your money
legally its not possible to get it back. The
only way to get it back is to find out who
the hacker is and possible take the stolen
stuff from his account and ban him.

It would probably be good to protect Graal against
crime outside the game, but is that really possible?
Imagine I give you 4000 gralats for free. That's
4000 gralats that unbalance the money on the
server, also other people might say their account
has been hacked and they want to get the gralats
back, should I just give all of them what they want?
Yeah, when I was a FAQ, 3\4 of the questions been about money items and hats gone. Alot of those people admitted to downloaded a trainer.
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Old 08-22-2001, 05:48 PM
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He doesn't fill pass, when he open the fake trainer, the program automaticly send his password from the registry =P
I ment one of those moneymaking sites
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Old 08-22-2001, 06:16 PM
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Old 08-22-2001, 06:26 PM
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Trojans.. hmm no stefan.. trojan detectors wont do..

You could make a program within 5 minutes that takes all the account info out of your registry for graal and emails it to an email address.. no trojans needed.

The bottom line is that if you don't want your account getting hacked.. don't try to cheat.. and don't run graal helper programs, or programs for graal that weren't downloaded from the official site. Simple as that.
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Haha whne they have thoose webforums for gralat hacks I flood them with not so nice words =]
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Are there any working trainers for v2.05?
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I know sites that claim to have them. Haven't seen any proof.
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Are there any working trainers for v2.05?
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I'm not sure, I haven't seen any...yet (I'm sure there are though )
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Yes and I saw some people use em =P
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Yes and I saw some people use em =P
I agree and they are in use on Npulse asked the ones that are banned for it . heh
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Are there any working trainers for v2.05?
(don't post URL just say yes or no
I may have a site that does , won't post it here but I can send it to you thru ICQ or email [email protected]
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People really should stop whining about money on a game, it's not like you lost a house or a car.
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yeah, gt... Pie hacked someones account yesterday and was doing a color hack where his cloths change colors every 5 secs... He was also hacking the police npcs looks....
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Old 08-24-2001, 06:58 AM
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they could check the logs?

Anyway, i thought you were quitting graal...?
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