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Originally Posted by Projectshifter

Actually I see that keeping it via script is much easier to keep track of. Can you do /openbanlist or so and find out who's all banned and such? It wouldn't be hard to keep a list of who is all banned, you could actually make a time-released ban where you didn't have to rely on human-error to take care of releasing players. Yes, I see how this would be SO horrible :O

What if the script gets tampered with? There goes your ban list. You've got to factor in those maintaining the script.
Maybe if that feature was added in 3.0 RC, there wouldn't be a need.

Originally Posted by Projectshifter

LOL, so you'd rather give your staff useless and pointless things to make them feel special and not "left out" because they have what they need for their jobs? Yes, I see how not giving someone an RC because it's unneeded, they can still do their job exactly as they would before with the proper NPCs, and it wouldn't effect them. When you said earlier about LATs sending in levels, a good deal of LATs directly make backups and edit levels, which is another scenario alltogether.

I'd rather my staff be *happy*. Happy means staff are in happy moods, treat the players nice; which in turn makes the players happy, and the happy players will stay on my server.
Futhermore, it's not a question of making them feel special; it's a question of making them feel wanted.

Originally Posted by Projectshifter

Heh, actually if you do it properly you CAN keep comments in a string... how do you think the forums do it? Ever hear of the HTML command <br \>? The standard is \n for a linebreak, and it is very possible to code a GUI which will display this all. Perhaps rather fill in the stuff automatically and what-not. Not very complicated, just would require a bit of work. "needless work for scripters", how can it necessarily be needless if we're looking at setting a mandate for it and this would allow it to be possible? Or at least some servers would get use out of it. I don't know about all the other coders, but to me, if it gets used in a legitamite way, no script is "needless work".

As I said, it is a needless mandate and it is also pushy. I've not experienced any problems as a direct result of GPs, FAQs or ETs having RC. I don't know why we need this.

Originally Posted by Projectshifter

Except this will still cut down on the problem. Most FAQs/ETs/GPs etc are not necessarily friends, but they get hired honestly to my knowledge. So it might not fix 100% of the problem, but it will sure do a sufficient job.

It won't cut the problem at all.

Originally Posted by Projectshifter

I know you haven't realized this yet, but somehow arguing with another global over something they put time in to help the community, doesn't make you look good, nor do it do much good for the image of the global community. So yes, at times you should learn to "sit on your hands", please.

I know you haven't realized this yet, but maybe the players don't want someone who is not even a part of an appropriate department to unilaterally declare RCs for their staff rosters illegal. Here's a notion: forcing your ideas on people just because you have them doesn't make you right.

Originally Posted by Projectshifter

Since when has our jobs been about "pleasing the playerworlds" vs. making the game better and such? Our jobs are not to make the playerworlds happy, but if that is possible we should. The whole point is to weed out non-essential staff on RC, which is made for essential-staff. It was not really a big deal with the staff= other than it being huge when it wasn't needed x.x

These people PAY Graal's expenses.
People will not PAY for playerworlds if they do not have a certain amount of freedoms to develop their server to their choosing.

Besides that, happy people make more productive workers... look into it. Some of the things the PWA has done have made managers unhappy, but these things were done so that further unhappiness would be prevented. Limiting high-power RCs probably saved alot of grief for alot of people. This, however, would do nothing of the sort. All it does is needlessly tell people what to do. There is no security benefit. There's no convenience benefit, especially if the server is against using it.

Originally Posted by Projectshifter

Actually you'd be surprised how much warping can be abused, and if you give someone RC, most servers randomly give out unnecessary rights... which isn't very smart. I don't see it as 'impeding upon server managers' as much as realizing that the server managers are given permission, rights, and power via GraalOnline, so if GraalOnline decides to limit non-essential things, I fail to see how this is a problem?

Who're you to decide what is non-essential?

Originally Posted by Projectshifter

The point is, that Graal does not answer to server managers, it's the other way around. Graal decides what rules apply in general, and as certain servers with GPs/ETs/FAQs etc are felt not to be needed on RC, then the policy changes.

I don't disagree, but I also think that adding policy which can cause major protest over something so minor as "making it easier to read" is unwise.

Originally Posted by Projectshifter

And this isn't even the discussion. The whole point was that this is a gift. Playerworlds can choose to use it or not, stop turning everything into a personal battle and grow up please because I refuse to do this in the public eye anymore. I am not going to have the global image lowered because you can't grow up. So stop this nonesense and please, if you have a problem, say it in private to me and not make a fool of yourself and the community out in the open =/ If you dare reply with a snide or indecent comment, you have just fallen a notch in my eyes.

You just said it was in the works of becoming a mandate. And I got complaints about you telling people it was such. What do you expect me to do? Ignore my job?
This isn't a personal battle, either. It's a policy battle. You just said yourself that you effectively don't care what the managers think (or the countless GPs/ETs/FAQs you'd be discouraging). Good job on keeping your "global image" up to snuff.

Originally Posted by Projectshifter

I really could care less what I am accused of, and if I did say something, you should take it up privately with me. Actually, they should take it up privately with me. And if you cared to investigate, I'm sure you'd fidn that this was on a development world, where, as the rules state, they are not to have non-developmental staff. kthanxbai
-Projectshifter

You should have brought it up to us, as it is our job to deal with such issues.
As I understand it:
GST scripts.
PWA enforces playerworld rules.