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Old 01-09-2004, 02:19 AM
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"If you refer to our rules, you see ALL players in CP must be in character on tag at ALL times UNLESS they have "-OOC-" in their name."

Your rules say when using the tag, not to always wear it. You might want to rephrase this in your roleplaying document to " ... ALL players in CP must be in character while on tag at ALL times" This statement confused some of your members.

"If you think using (( )) is annoying or tedious, don't use it. Get off tag. If you want to do this all day now, take Gozelda's advice."

I do find it annoying and tedious, but I've done it anyway. My point is I have followed all of your rules, but there is redundancy with some of these rules. (( )) applies to IC use, but then really what's the point in having -OOC- in your name? Just so you don't have to use (( and ))? Really, the -OOC- stuff just seems pointless, since everyone should jump off their tag when they are not roleplaying. But then again, those people who only play a short while would have to spend all their time roleplaying when they do get on to meet your activity requirements.

I commend you on offering suggestions to people when they are using OOC matters in their IC conversations. I think what some of these people are trying to express is the manner in which you do it. They feel threatened or like they are being scolded. My suggestion has been to re-evaluate how you address your members, and to lengthen the fuse for your anger. Count to 10, and pull that string.

I'd be more mad at myself if I put someone at a high rank and they broke the rules, than at the person. I put them in that position, of course, I should be the one to blame for doing so. They didn't receive the instruction that they deserved. I've seen a few people jump up to some pretty nice ranks lately, and I've been wondering why. I'm sure there are others wondering that as well.

When I was playing DAoC (Dark Age of Camelot) they introduced a filtering system for text for the 'lol' and other internet acronyms that people sometimes use despite commonly understood roleplaying regulations. I think the reason these people use these phrases and words is because, well one they are young, and two they just don't understand or haven't been properly introduced to roleplaying. That's where your super elite roleplaying members are supposed to come in, teaching the folks a better way of roleplaying. You used Christians as an example, well they try to spread their faith and their truth as much as possible. You're basicly wanting us to enclose ourselves and put barriers up, and keep that truth from the others. I am saying it would be best to open the doors, and freely let the truth be told and shown. They'll catch on eventually, just have to be more diligent with it.

My response to "I don't understand the rules" would be, "what particular part do you mean?" not "Go read it again." That's what I am trying to say. There are better ways to respond. If you are busy with other matters, I can understand, but please remember you have chosen to take a leadership position. You have removed that right to play the game like a normal player in order to take on the position of a leader in this game. That has a lot of responsibility, and part of that is to converse with your players, and if they don't understand, to help them do so.

I can read the same line of text that I do not understand, and I will not gain any meaning. I will only understand that I have wasted the time spent on memorizing that text instead of just asking someone for help.

" As for all your complains about our rping.... refer to Ziro... (Why would you even join Crecent Pirates if your not going to follow the rules... then complaine about them on the fourms... seriously people.)"

First off, I am not complaining about the quality of roleplaying that is in CP. It is top notch, and at times very enjoyable. I have no problems there. My problem is the isolation that is being presented, and the fact that this is going to hurt the group in the long run, rather than assist it in growing and becoming a better kingdom. Why did I join CP? Well, this whole document was written AFTER I joined. Also, when this document was posted, I was told about it after the fact. In a business situation, that is like changing the entire licensing agreement from what I originally agreed to (without adding a statement that the rules/regulations are subject to change without warning). I have commented, given my opinion, and also suggestions. Is that complaining? If it is not the same as yours, I suppose so.

Again, I will go back to the day that this event occured. I had spent the entire evening off tag while in the mines. The time span that I was in there was over 6 hours. I had logged off quite a few times in between there, and towards the end of the 6 hour period I logged back on, went on tag, and started to walk out to go back to bomboria. A minute or two after I went back on tag, you did as well and posted that message about obeying the rules. I asked if I had done something, and you said yes. I asked what, and you told me that you saw me break a rule near a pub by using 'lol' or something of that sort in a conversation. First off, I have never actually used 'lol' since I have been playing Graal. Second, I know I wasn't there, because I had just logged on in the mines not two minutes before I went on tag, then two minutes later you went on and said I broke a rule. After you logged off, I guess because you lagged, I spoke to the Governor and told him my situation. I roleplayed that entire situation to the teeth as well, and the governor mentioned something to the effect that you were probably mistaken. You were.

Yes, I have called you abusive. There's more than just you and Ziro as leaders in this kingdom. If you and ziro wrote the rules, why weren't there other captains involved? Alisa wasn't involved, I know that much. I'm not sure about the other captains, I don't trust them much either.

The boy ended up being rightfully removed, that's all I can say on that. Boorab really played his character to the teeth, well, there probably wasn't any roleplaying involved, but it was definately as a 'fool.'

"I like how you made up your mind that Ziro told nobody about his rules and vision for Crecent Pirates. Not only did he tell me, but I helped plan it and share my ideas on it. Thanks for showing your excelent mindreading skills, I promise to pay you next time."

I figured as much. There was no debate or differing opinion than that of you two. None of the other captains were involved, and none of the other players knew anything about it until it was said and done. That is my complaint. Something of this nature should have been discussed. By the very nature of drastic changes, they affect more than you and ziro. That is why more than you two should have been involved. It would have helped more members better understand these new regulations, and it would have probably made a better draft of them as well (without all the edits that are having to go in afterwards). While I know not all documents are flawless when originally drafted, most of them are a collaborative effort by those involved and not just the work of two people. If at all, this should have been a proposal to be worked on, not a mandate.
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