[MrGannondorf]

oh, and MrCharls, you need too look at trees some more. even at the base of the branches, there are twigs and leaves. Granted, I don't think there are that many. Also, some branches branch out in the direction you are looking, and sag down below where they apear to branch out. There is not much of a definite when it comes to trees.

and I'm not sorry for double posting, lol.