geez, and to think, this whole 7 page thing was just because someone complained about being too lazy to bring their pw back to par...
things change with time, standards change, you have to keep up with the standards, and in my opinion bravo shouldnt have been put back up until everything was up to par anyway, so none of this arguing would have taken place, so i wouldnt be typing this, so i would've saved 2 minutes...well, i have nothing better to do, but that's besides the point...
umm...i'll shut up now...