I knew Lorin (aka Godspeed or GSpeed2000 [older nickname]) way before I knew about Graal, we used to play a game called Microsoft 3D Movie Maker, and we were in this large community where we all made movies, we reviewed them, and shared them, it was fun. I think the community is bigger than it was now too,
www.3dmm.com. I left that game though once I got into Graal, told Lorin about it, and a few years later I noticed him playing it and he told me I got him hooked on it. :P