[Lycia]

Originally posted by Barbi
You are right, you were not the only one involved. But why shouldn't I point at you too... are you somehow less responsible then them? You are the only one involved who did not get their account banned or a serious punishment. You got one day's suspension from Graal. The message being that GP's and other's in positions of power are above the rules all "normal" Graalians are held to. And this is an important thing to be aware of.

I mean, I'll tell you how much I was involved in teh Avelon thing. I deleted some members from the guild. End of story. I didn't know ShadowFox had been sub7'ed until it was too late and her PC was messed up, her passwords were exposed and the "crew" was already meddling with her things. So, please, go blame them too.

Just because you take off the RC/GP tag, doesn't mean you stop being a representative of Graal. The responsibility of being a GP or Admin is full time. You accept the position, you become a representative of Graal and it's reputation is made better or hurt by your actions. The two can not be seperated.

I realize what I did wasn't good, I paid for it by peoples losing respect for me, and by eventually losing my GP position. I am not dismissing what I did, I am merely attempting to clarify it.

And as I AM one of the leaders of Avelon, as well as close friends with a couple of the other leaders, I think I would know if you had actually apologized to the leaders. And as I said before, a real apology is not saying you're sorry in one sentance then saying you don't see what you did was so wrong in another. As a matter of fact, that's a good example of an insincere apology.

I did apologize to both ShadowFox and the old Graal boards. It was sincere, and I meant it. I'm sorry if you don't wanna take it that way.

Yes, you kind of apologized because it was obvious that you were only doing it in an effort to appease people. See above about an incere apology. Kind of insulting to everyone's intelligence that you thought it would be accepted as the real thing, when you think about it.

See above.

[QUOTE]And as for apologizing to your co-workers, how many of them were in Avelon? Trust me when I say that the majority of Avelon members DO NOT consider that you have ever sincerely apologized. Or indeed, that you are even sorry you did it, only that you were caught. [QUOTE]

None of them were members of Avelon as far as I know. And again, I'm sorry they didn't take my apology to heart, but I wasn't going to write a 2000 word essay on why I was sorry.

Exactly, TAW was Contego's guild, so in a way, he had a right to do what he did. You were not connected to Avelon in anyway, You had no right whatsoever to do what you did to Avelon. And as I recall, you posted about what a horrible thing it was that he had done to the guild and how much it had effected the members. This proved that you knew exactly what you were doing when you deleted the Avelon members. And now you are planning to do the same thing to TAW again, even though you stated that TAW did not ever deserve that again. But I can understand, SM does not allow it's members to be in multiple guilds, and we all know that's your goal for the moment.

At the moment, I am not in any guilds. I have abandoned the guild portion of JF, and retained my rights in the church portion. They are two different entites and they operate differently, so, no, I am not in any guilds. What happens to JF as a guild is entirely up to the Sanction Leaders, not me. So, again, I am not in any guilds except maybe (Seven Pointed Star) but thats exclusively my tag and no one else is allowed to wear it.

And as for how the deletion of Avelon's members has to do with your GP performance, see above where I remarked on the inability to remove oneself from one's publicly held office/position. It's really a simple concept to understand, Lycia, especially for someone who's already out of schooland presumably has a more complete education... If you can't comprehend it, perhaps you shouldn't be given anymore positions of power where your actions are representative of Graal.

I suggest you take a look at the work I've done since those isolated incidences. I have not abused any right I have been given thus far and I intend on keeping that record up. I realize what I did was stupid, and I won't repeat any of it ever again. I don't wanna have to repeat this.

I'm glad that's one screw-up where you were able to make amends in such a way that everyone was satisfied and happy.

Thank you for the credit.

I know exactly what happened on the board, I've been reading them for months. And I have some close friends in SM, so I'm pretty sure I do have my facts straight. You seem to have a habit of stubbornly seeing only what you want to. But still, I am surprised that you are surprised that you got attacked. I mean one of the topics there was "Lycia is fat bc" I mean, if they liked you so much, would that topic really have been there? And there were many more Lycia-bashing topics that were deleted. Does that really sound like most of the members wanted you there? It is repeatedly posted there that you are not wanted in the guild, you're a joke there... I can not figure out why you want to be a part of something that has no respect for you at all. Sounds like a self-esteem problem to me...

That "Ly.cia is fat bc" post was made by the The Game when he hated me. The Game and several members of SM and I have made up and we're now on okay terms. You apparently do NOT have your facts straight because if you did, you'd realize that I came in peacefully, posted nicely, was attacked, was kicked out. So, tell me, where did I go wrong on that front?

And I find it so commendable that you are willing to throw away both JF and TAW for the possibility of being in SM. A true indication of what you consider loyalty, I'd say. Besides you can't be loyal to SM because you're not in it. This seems to be another simple idea you're having a lot of trouble comprehending.

Yes, you should find it commendable. I've been wanting in either NK or SM for a long, VERY long time now, and I told myself that if I ever got to be in those guilds, I'd abandon TAW and JF(As a guild.). I did when I joined SM. You can even ask Archangel himself.


Now, cut this out.