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Old 02-26-2012, 04:09 PM
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as if I just wanted the restoration of the levels from a random version
Your posts suggest that you do.


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I'm not sure what you mean?
should I treat everything as black as white to maintain consistency?
in 2003 some of these quests were still around. in 2011 I none of these quests are still around. should I treat both versions the same just because they were different from before?
This question doesn't make sense.


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but just because you have something of your own, doesn't mean that the opinions of people that want something else, that doesn't have to come in the place of your thing, have to be hushed.
I haven't said that it does. I've been giving you an explanation as to why I disagree with your opinions, and the many problems surrounding them.

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this argument doesn't concern you or your server personally.
Where have I suggested that this concerns me personally?
As far as concerning the server, how could "reupload the 2000 Classic levels" not be? (albeit Graal2000 was a flop, and was made in the first place to prove Tyhm's point)

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I think the old stuff could still attract modern players. gamers who are downloading/playing graal don't seek ultra modern gameplay. they can still enjoy the old stuff.
I agree that it's possible for old gameplay to be enjoyed and that Graal should be trying to further market itself as a retro game. But much of these levels you yearn for were from a time where there was no such thing as an accepted standard. For all the good things that are worth salvaging (and can be salvaged properly on the current server), there were a lot of terrible off-putting things as well. Then you would still have the problem of it being harder to maintain while adding new features to the game.

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tyhm didn't do his overhaul because people disliked what was before
I didn't say he did.

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but because he wasn't able to fully develop his own vision on it.
That, and the previous version not actually having as much of a vision.

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To say that people only played it because there weren't many options, or because it was free, is just untrue in my opinion.
I'm not saying those were the only reasons people played it. I'm saying those are the circumstances of the time which provided the higher playercounts, and compensated for the lack of quality compared to Tyhm's final version of GTA. Due to the introduction of P2P, and the establishment of more servers, Classic had already lost a lot of players even before the NPC-Server.

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I'm not here to annoy you or make you nuisance as you say
I'm not saying you're here to annoy me, I'm saying you're acting under a conspicuous guise rather than simply being honest and upfront about what you want.