[papajchris]

Zodiac allows guilds, but they call them clans. BTK had a clan on Zodiac for a while, which is like i said, basically a guild. I don't know if any clans last that long on Zodiac though, so i guess that helps your argument? And you are right about guilds. Thinking back to UN, the large guilds were SMK and UNF and then of course other ones in between and that you mentioned. tbh, i think that as the playerbase of Graal gets older, everyone is realizing they dont want to take orders or w/e from some kid over a game.