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Originally Posted by Horrified

How many of are seeking it, though, because they actual are worried about there own playerworld? The majority of unkown players are in it for power. Not like you can't tell from how they only push there server to a ceartin point, then stop; the majority don't care. They spend all there time day-dreaming about how everyone would give you such good compliments as a manager of a world with 200 players on.

You should be able to expect those who say they can develop to actually being able to develop. We're booked on a large amount of LATs, those that can be found that can do good things with pics1.png aren't in double-digits, less know anything more then using predefined objects.

And half the servers that want staff never log on to hire them anyway.

It's not they're being generous, though, the majority that work on 10+ servers are hoping eventually one becomes successful, they never get removed and they're a cool staff for the new popular Era-2!

I'm having a very, very hard time following this. I just have no idea what kind of point you're trying to make.

Because then only one of them is going to be the manager; and that means only one of them is going to "bask in the glory of the new modern Era-2!" It's the need for being the manager of the world, or the owner, or whatever they call it that makes them feel good about themselves.

Exactly my point. People need to stop worrying about the power and glory and actually worry about making something with quality, and people wonder why there are never any new servers. If you can't sit back in a lowly developer position only with the powers you need, and make stuff that benefits the server and makes something really great... then you're not going to be able to make it. Servers are meant to be a place to be played, not a kingdom you can rule over, I think people forget that.

How do we know they have the same idea?

"It's a secret to everybody"

What? People post the same ideas as the next server on the forum all the time. The servers that we don't know about have no room to be in my example, because my example was specifically about servers basically doing the exact same thing as the next.

Yeah, but if they learn to make graphics and they think it's better then making levels, they sure as hell don't want to make more levels when they can make graphics.

And I stick to what I said, that's a very dumb logic. Why would you throw away one skill for another? More than one skill is always a good thing. If they don't want to better themselves in more area than one, that's their own loss. If I was a good lawyer and then studied to be a scientist, and found out I enjoyed science better, I think it'd be a bit dumb to just forget all my skills and knowledge of being a lawyer because I'm a scientist now. This isn't an RPG where you can only know one skill at a time.

Like I said, you'll find hundreds of people who can level and perhaps one that can barely get past on a decent level. When I was advertising around for my server for LATs, I got 23 tryouts and 1 made it, only to quit because he wanted to work somewhere that already had more work done and he would be "uber cool and popular."

My examples aren't taking into consideration people who can level, but aren't good at it... but people who actually have a skill at it. I still don't see what this has to do with what I said though. Because GS2 is the newest development thing for Graal, everyone wants to try it out. Sure, not everyone is cut out for it, but there are suddenly a lot of new faces because people found their 'new' thing. If a new editor comes out, a lot more people are going to try it, and perhaps find out they're good at making levels. It's incentive, otherwise people most of the time have no reason to actually try. Not to mention GS2 is object-oriented, which makes it very familiar to those who actually program.

Friends is probably an easier way to get at it; but usually you befriend others playing on Zodiac or helping on the "quests" in Unholy Nation; the majority of those players aren't taking there time in development. I've befriended quite a few whom I play with very occassionally and I've asked about development and none knew they could even make there own server, so I bet I could take the blame for why a few new Dev <Acc> popped up recently and will be hiring for there Era-2.

I don't play Graal at all and I had plenty of friends made just from the forums. If you want friends who develop, be friendly with development. You can't expect to play UN and make lots of friends that develop(but there is a possibility! I'm sure there are a lot of good developers that just don't frequent the forum). I made lots of friends that if I ever needed the help making a server, probably would, by helping them. But the general Graalian is a bit too selfish to be able to actually enjoy this wonderful thing, since all they worry about is themselves. You'll find the more helpful you are to others, the more willing they are to help you.