[Kyranki]

Originally Posted by xXziroXx

Shut up Stan.


Tony Rivers originally made that body for Icarus (who later changed bodies I believe), and gave Jer permission to use any edit of it if he wanted too. Jer ONLY had that single front view when he began working on the bodies.

Over a year ago, Sage stole our character sprites from temp folder on RC (he was a newb back then, all forgiven now anyways) and claimed it as his own. From there it gets a bit blurry.. Sage uploaded it on Eden, and the Crass began to make a ****load of sprites for it.

Sometime later, Sage and Lance edited the body and made sprites for it - this is the version we use on Mythic Legends at the moment.

But yes, Mythic Legends is the original owner of all body sprites made after that single front view posted in the first post - if anyone else made edits to it (except Tony, duh), they are not allowed to use it.

You can read more here: http://forums.graalonline.com/forums...ad.php?t=66422

Ok, all that bashing towards Ziro was unnecessary on my part despite what he says, I have a full chronological order of the images of Metropolis. And I've also had a chat with Jer.

http://forums.graalonline.com/forums...55&postcount=4

^ This was the original front view of the bodies that Tony Rivers gave to Jer that Jer made edits off of. Earlier in '06 I believe Sage and Lance stole the edits Jer made off of these and made sprites for Theed. So yes Ziro is correct on this part. Jer has also told me himself this is indeed the original view Tony Rivers made for Metropolis and not Icarus Zir.

Inbetween, the original's which did indeed look like the bodies Mythic Legends ended up using, Tony made an edit of the originals posted above and created these:

http://forums.graalonline.com/forums...89&postcount=1

^ Those are an of the originals and they are the same edit that Mike! (PrinceOfKenshin) has posted here.

http://forums.graalonline.com/forums...8&postcount=37
http://forums.graalonline.com/forums/showpost.php?p=971851&postcount=20'

Couple more pics of the body with slight alterations to them from Tony but still resembling the original. This is all from 2004.

http://forums.graalonline.com/forums...19&postcount=1

Here you will see a revert back to the original bodies without the odd face alterations and an early version of tiles resembling Relic's tileset which Tony Rivers made.

http://forums.graalonline.com/forums...53&postcount=6

The same bodies again for Metropolis with several facial animations and a dog.

http://forums.graalonline.com/forums...1&postcount=19

http://forums.graalonline.com/forums...9&postcount=52

^ Another slight body comparison for the forums where Tony ended up sticking with the bodies on the left side instead of the right. Which in my opinion looked better.

http://forums.graalonline.com/forums...59&postcount=1

These final bodies were not for Metropolis but were for the project Graal: Rebirth which Tony Rivers started AFTER Metropolis failed. Graal: Rebirth eventually then turned into Relic. Which Novo was the scripter, blah blah blah...

Oi, Ziro I don't have a problem with you and you know that. But that "Shut up." was in no way necessary. Considering the fact we ARE talking about two different Time Era's. The last two years when Sage stole the bodies, put them on Eden and Crass made a crapload of sprites. Then when he and Lance used them on Theed and made some more sprites. And the Era of Metropolis and such which was 2004.

I'm talking way in the past. You're talking immediate future. No reason to argue is there? Let's say we stop the argument at that? I don't really want to argue with you pal. :O

Originally Posted by Switch

it looks the same.

Hush, stan. hush.

And, instead of me cursing at you and getting angry, I'll have you see above and show you they are in fact NOT the same bodies. So try to learn something.