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Originally Posted by Googi
And I'm saying that those two are peripheral to Kaimetsu's (and my) ability, and that in saying that by claiming that they are central you (intentionally or unintentionally) "cheapen" what we do by saying that it's a result of "researching" (the ability of using other people's abilities) and making things "sound good".
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Uh, believe it or not, the entire basis of having solid logic and a solid arguement comes through research itself. You need to know logic, you need to train yourself to think and present a rational arguement, and you need to have facts to back your arguement lest it will be proven invalid. All this comes through researching topics, be it the topic under debate, or the topic of logic itself.
I'm cheapening what you do no more than I would by saying a basketball player's main strengths are his free throws and 3 point shots. By saying this, I'm not saying other parts of his game are not good, I'm saying those are the points that stand out to me.
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Originally Posted by Googi
You say that he makes things "seem" a certain way, suggesting that they aren't really the way he makes them seem they are (AKA he is using deception).
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Again, you're making everything I'm saying into some abstract version of my real meaning, seemingly on purpose.
I said he makes his points, thus his arguements, seem unbreakable. That's exactly what I meant. I'm not going to claim every single time Kai argued, he was totally correct in all or most of his points, because I'm sure this is not the case. However, his ability to present his arugement well probably has stopped people from being able to disprove him at times, too. If you want to call this deception and tricks, fine then. I just call it being a sound debater.