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Originally Posted by Googi
You seem to think that the only definition of success is the achievement of the inferred objective (or stated objective, though I don't usually clearly state an objective). If this were the case then I wouldn't try, or I would try to accomplish things through becoming staff, or something. In attempting I can develop my ability and build a respectable name for myself. The attempt has inherent value regardless of whether or not the most apparent objective is achieved.
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You could have summed it up as "i dont really care if i accomplish anything, i just wanna own stefan verbally because im right"
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Would I have been "better off" had I not made these attempts simply because they ended in "failure"?
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What were the arguments about?