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Old 03-08-2007, 05:20 AM
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Originally Posted by konidias View Post
I don't know what you're considering good... but I'm considering "good" as better than anything Graal has to offer right now... so no, I don't think non-talented people can make good content...
You can only expect a certain amount of quality from unpaid workers.


Someone could be a good cook at home. That does not mean they could work at a rastaurant serving $45 a plate meals.

They're still good, their food is enjoyable, and you look forward to eating it. But it's not their job, it's their hobby.

It's the same way in Graal. A lot of people produce good quality spare time/hobby material.

If you hire people and expect more than that out of them, you also better be willing to compensate them for their time and effort, most likely with cash.

If you consider someone good someone that could get a legit job at a game company, and you're also saying you'd like to see people like this produce content for graal, you're out of your mind.

That simple.
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Originally Posted by DustyPorViva View Post
Planning and hard-working is not going to make good content, no matter what. The whole "A" for effort thing doesn't work when making games. If you're not talented, and keep working on scripts, isn't going to make them work just because you try. If you keep trying doesn't make your graphics look better if you don't have the talent for it. It may, may, work for LATing, but not for scripting or graphics. There is so much involved in scripting hard-work isn't going to make scripts work. And if they do, and you're not very talented in it, it probably isn't going to be efficient... and a whole server of NPCs like that will show its true problems.
So what you're saying is you can't be good at something you're not talented at? Practice counts for little to nothing?

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Originally Posted by DustyPorViva View Post
You do need talent, at least for Graal. Maybe way back during Atari and Commodore talent wasn't that special, but now its what people look for. Simple graphics don't cut it, simple games don't either. People want more.
If people wanted more than Graal, they'd play something other than Graal. We're not talking about something other than Graal, we're talking about Graal.

Many people enjoy this game because of the simplicity factor. There is a whole world of professionally made games by talented developers out there. If that's what people what, that's what they're playing.
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