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I mean it does take alot of time and self cordination to make ganis.
Believe it or not you need to know your frame work.
I've taught myself how to do it.
And i never read any tutorials, so that was hard.
I mean being able to make ganis is pretty much talent to me.
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Knocking together a few sprites is not a talent.
Being able to animate with as little resources as possible is talent.
Fogles and Chris have talent.
I think Gani's are underrated.