[protagonist]

Originally Posted by Lance

I'm the manager. That's a pretty good reason to start with, especially since you still fail to comprehend the whole burden-of-proof thing.

When you're in a position such as manager, and on a server owned by Graal, the burden of proof should be on you in regards to how efficient it is to keep your worthless hide around.

Originally Posted by Lance

RC logs, files on Graal2001 Dev, and files on my own computer tend to indicate otherwise. The fact is that your claim is an opinion not grounded in reality. Also: you lack the capability to support your claim that I haven't done anything. Why bother pretending you can?

Hah. Here we go with more "I've got proof that I work but I won't show it to you!". It's funny; you restrict my access to 2k1 Dev so I can't prove how lazy you are, and then you turn around and say that same proof is actually in your favor.

Originally Posted by Lance

Yeah, just ignore the times Graal2001 was previously up and that things have changed since 2001. Great plan, Sherlock.

"Things have changed". Great outline of development, Sherlock. Why is it it Zone only took about a year to put up while 2k1 is taking much longer?

Originally Posted by Lance

Pay attention. I said he was misrepresenting the request. And the request lacks the credibility when it is made by a player that it has when made by someone who actually has the authority to make one for real.

I'm paying perfect attention. You're just trying to backslide so that you don't lose a point, which is already too late. You're in a public position on Graal, and every player has credibility to request your removal by the fact that they pay for it. Customers have the right to go to the manager and request someone be fired or punished for incomptitency in "real life" businesses, so why not Graal?

Originally Posted by Lance

Opinion + no basis. You win x2!

What are you giving us other than opinions? You never prove your facts, but simply cite the fact that we haven't proven ours. Just because we can't log on 2k1 and get a log of your laziness doesn't mean that what we are saying is false. Given the information that we are given: the fact 2k1 is still not up, the fact you refuse to provide ample reason for over a year of development, and so on. Those are our proofs, which you can't refute. All you say is "well, the staff were not here for me!". Prove it. Prove the accusations that you make on the entire community when you say that "nobody would help me".

Originally Posted by Lance

I have cronies? Whoa, cool.

Is there supposed to be some corrolation between pointing out that percentages do not measure actual amount of work done and "telling someone to 'drown themself'"?

You completely dodged that question. How typical. Read back a couple quotes. And as for percentages, Koni has shown way more by himself than you have with a whole roster of staff.

Originally Posted by Lance

You can apply "statistics and probabilities" to something you admit knowing absolutely nothing about to state something about it with certainty? That's pretty damned brilliant.

The fact we know nothing is the reason we can make this probability. It is proof that 2k1 is not up, and that you have not given us reason for the extensive amount of time that you have had it in development.

Originally Posted by Lance

Where did I say it was unfair? Please stop arguing against points I am not making. I mean it's pretty cool that you can, but I don't see how it contributes to this discussion at all.

You are suggesting that because we don't know about your server, we can't acknowledge that Koni's surplus of proof versus your lack of proof is evidence against you.

Originally Posted by Lance

The ones CheeToS and I have shown are minute improvement? Perhaps you ought to reexamine that. Perhaps you also ought to explain how "minute improvement" and "interesting" even fall into the same scale.

I don't find them interesting. I find them to be, basically, the same thing that has always been there with slight improvements. This, while Koni completely revamps the graphics, tiles and ganis. He has shown considerable progress, backed by proof (see the horse thread in Graphics forum, for example, and look at the threads he has made elsewhere).

Originally Posted by Lance

You're arguing out of ignorance, buddy. You have zero knowledge about what has taken place on debug RC.

I saw what I saw before you deleted it. It seems pretty interesting. Of course, you wouldn't dare keep something so damaging in the open. If anyone wants to see it, PM me.

Originally Posted by Lance

1) To who?
2) For what reason?

1) To Stefan.

2) OMG Stefan we can't say anything he says because he is Stefan!

People quote him all the time from debug. He probably doesn't care.

Originally Posted by Lance

I was quoting something he said - not 'remembering' anything.

You obviously missed the point.
I was implying that, by saying that there were logs but that you refuse to release them, you are making us trust you. You've already proven yourself to be, at best, dishonest and dodgy.

Originally Posted by Lance

His posts had content. Your one-liner cheers amount to spam. Report it all you want.

Better delete all of the posts in the level forum where people only post "6/10", etc.

Originally Posted by Lance

Except you still have totally missed the point where the only persons I am actually obligated to show my progress to are Stefan and unixmad, which I will happily do if/when requested of me.

And that's fine, but you can't blame people for judging your progress by what you show.

Originally Posted by Lance

You probably shouldn't waste the time. It is in violation of the vip.graal.net usage conditions and will ultimately be removed. Cheers.

*shrug*
I'll put it somewhere else, then.