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Old 09-16-2005, 10:11 PM
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Originally Posted by konidias
1) 2k1 is still not released. That's all the argument you need. Seriously, you have to be kidding about this.
Except I'm not kidding. That's not proof of anything except that 2k1 is not actually released.

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2) Which apparently was important enough for you to make an enormous post about 2k1 and how you're going to turn it around and actually get to work. (see link at bottom of this post for reference)
I acknowledged that the players wanted some more information and was willing to provide some.

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3) How doesn't it?
Burden of proof. Look it up.

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Well apparently you don't have enough time OR staff to manage 2k1 efficiently. Give it up already.
Oh, well I guess I've got no other choice, I probably ought t-

What, do you think I'm going to resign from being the manager of Graal2001 just because you and VT don't like it? That's pretty funny. :)

Also, efficiency != progress != percentages. Work on your cohesion, buddy.

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I know enough.
Is nothing enough?

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When Stefan was questioning you he was checking out your server and saying there hadn't been a file changed on the server in quite a few months. I've talked with previous staff who've said nothing was getting done. That is why I stated with confidence that I've done more. The only reason I have any doubt is that I don't know what has been done in the past month. But I have a feeling it's not much.
You, uh, do realize that there is some chronology involved here, don't you? Before this summer, I had almost no time for Graal stuff and there probably was a lack of file updates for a few months. Summer came, however, and I started setting things back in order.

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So I'm a kid now? Real mature.
You're acting like one, anyway. Lacking in the latter.

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I didn't whine to Stefan about anything.
I already pointed out that private debug chat is not allowed to be posted on these forums. Alas, though - I would have liked to furnish the evidence.

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I wanted both of us to be able to work on our own projects but Stefan wasn't as thrilled with the idea. When you showed no signs of stepping down from a project that you're NOT GETTING DONE, that is when I decided it would be better to just replace your 2k1.
Well, I had theorized that your whole "alternate 2k1" plan was just another way to remove me as manager since Stefan would not comply with your whining, but it is nice to now have some concrete proof of this.

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A little over a month ago. 2k2 Debug RC:

Edit: Sorry, no debug logs.
I saw it before it was removed. Have you ever heard of the term 'relative'?

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*cough*
Perhaps some anti-cough pills would help you out here.

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Also I find this (which you also said in that post) quite amusing:

Wow, that sounds familiar. Except of course when YOU whined to Stefan it wasn't "whining" it was "speaking". :rolleyes:
I had valid reasons and actual evidence backing me. Your argument thus far amounts to "lance is evil and does nothing I don't like him and look I will misrepresent reality >:(." Unsurprisingly you have avoided the majority of my counterpoints.