I'd say a real oldbie isn't someone who has 1000+ hours and no life (out in the ral world anyway). Whoever thinks that has no reason in this world to live other than glue your eyeballs to an ultraviolet screen and point out typos and obvious sarcasm they don't understand.
Anyway I would a Graal oldbie is someone who has been periodically playing for quite some time. I personally started playing the 1.28 beta version of graal right after I played that joke-of-a-java version. Anything before the big v2.0 update should be considered an oldbie.
Recognition for you guys...post if you played before v2.0
(and if not don't post here about your opinions..thats flaming and you nubs have no say,k.)
