[ZanderX]

Originally Posted by Kronan

I think Cyberwhatever people should be the moderators, people who actually get paid and don't need to be power hungry on a forum.

The problems with this are that:

• There aren't enough CJ employees to do this.
• The CJ employees that currently do use the forums are already occupied with other duties.

Obviously this problem can be solved by hiring employees specifically to moderate the forums or hiring some of the current moderation staff, etc.

Originally Posted by Mitch

Possibly, one moderator per section, so if you do not like that certain moderator you can go elswhere. Only this would not help as your certain field or favorite section may be covered by someone that you may hate.

The problem here, simply, is a combination of favoritism and bias. People who do not like a particular mod will either not post in that mod's forum or will post a lot there specifically to annoy said moderator and cause trouble. One moderator per section does not really work as there are times when moderators aren't online, etc.

Originally Posted by Mitch

Another possibility is to have some form of organized power system, which is guaranteed to happen with what is going on, on these forums.

I don't quite understand what you mean? The very nature of moderators and vBulletin is that there IS an organized power system. Users -> Moderators -> Super Moderators / Global Moderators -> Administrators. There's really not much else you can do except to impose hierarchy within specific forums that have more than one mod.

Originally Posted by Mitch

Zander, I partially agree with the moderator's discression however, this is one of the main problems causing all the trouble on the graal forums.

It causes trouble on just about every forum in the universe, dude. There's nothing you can do about it because moderators will close threads out of the blue at times because of their opinion. Not everything can be decided by using the rules as an arbitrary basis for 'law enforcement' if you will.

Take the forum that I was talking about in the beginning of the thread for example, he/she closed the thread because they believed it was inappropriate.

Originally Posted by Mitch

Moderators, were not hired to enforce their opinions or beliefs upon the graalian forums.

This is true. At the same time, users are not necessarily entitled to post all of their opinions or beliefs here.

Originally Posted by Mitch

They were hired strictly to enforce the rules made by the administrators of Graal and the creators of the forums, which evidently are the same people. Most likely I will continue discussing these issues, on these forums until I can grab someone's attention, and make progress.

Well, I'm just gonna say now that the moderators here have been very opinionated since the forums began; you weren't here back then and don't really know how it was like when we had actual user administration (TrueHeaT, Hawk, etc.), which was a lot different and much more...violent I guess.