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Old 01-03-2005, 12:56 AM
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Originally Posted by GoZelda
I see 5 moderators at the Dustari forums. You are one of them, but no one ever said you were corrupt.

That's the difference - in Forest they do RP. Perhaps some people in Dustari RP, but unfortunatly not the majority.


What if most of the old fans left it and all those still following it are stupid EMO punk types who have no individuality?


They're not Zurk's, they're Tyhms or Stefans, possibly Unixmad - it is damned clear the Zormites evolved from Classic's Zorbis.


I can't adress things that aren't printed in the same thread. By doing that, I still am more open to other things then you, because you can't even bring it up to scroll down or up a little.


Or perhaps the fact that this is a subforum of the 2k2 section of Graal Communication center matters? You could have thought of that


The fact that you interprete them as nonsensical while others don't sure does.


Then I'd love to see them


But he doesn't. You seem pretty contradicting to me - first you say GK doesn't RP in general, then you say you made almost all of Dustari RP. You seemed to have shut yourself off of reality whenever someone says that your kingdom doesn't RP, telling us to make suggestions for it to become better but in the meanwhile accusing us of dictatorial veto when most of us agree upon something and suggest it should be done.


That's swell. We're not in a town hall though. Besides, decromacy doesn't work in such a small circle.


So? I take the same point of view, I like it.
A) If you think people are acting corruptly in a forums, report it to a supermod. Nappa reported me to Lance for instance once, then stefan overruled him.
B) I have never seen forest RP, but I don't assume they don't. I don't expect Forest to justify their existence to me.
C) They could have become a cover band for Barry Manilow for all I care, artistic licence is up to the members, not former members.
D) Stefan has never made any requests or statements asking Zormite to enforce fish head gfx. Nor has Unixmad. They out rank the kingdom leaders, and unless they appoint some other position that also outranks kingdom leaders, then they are the only ones who do. Unless they say it is to be enforced, you have no right to enforce it, anymore than I can force anything on Forest.
E) Sure you can. Its documented history. Its context. Now I can't scroll? Back it up.
F) LOL now you are making faces at me for not defeating your own arguments in the means you would? I stated Zurk hates Dustari, you stated he doesn't hate Dustari...on 2k1. I stated that is irrelevant, as when I or pretty much anyone says Dustari we are not talking about 2k1, but 2k2. So what is your point about subforums? Again, you are looking to argue.
G) There is a such thing as preaching to the choir. If the end result of an argument is shared between people, then those other people rarely effectively pick apart the argument that lead to that conclusion. It doesn't make the argument right, nor does it make the end result right. More people agree with me than agree with you - does that mean I am right? Fact is both sides have people that disagree.
H) I've love to see Forest RP, but I don't. However, its not because Forest doesn't, its because I am not in forest.
I) GK does not in general, RP. I have always enforced, RPing in Dustari. That is not in any way contradictory. I have never opposed people offering suggestions, I have only opposed people trying to enforce their suggestions after they have been discussed and decided against. It would be as bad form as if my vision for say, armor class changes was proposed to stefan, and after he said he had other ideas in mind, if I mindlessly spammed the forums and harassed him and dragged thread after thread off its intended topic to rehash my old idea, trying to bludgeon him into doing things my way.
That and only that, is what I oppose, and it is what Nappa, Zurkiba, and yourself are doing. Its an old old idea, and it was proposed, and decided against. Thats all historical fact.

PS: Sorry to all the pirates who have to see this dumb, long annoying exchange.
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