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I'm doing no such thing. You're assuming that the only conceivable gods are those that have been worshipped by humans. In actuality there are trillions of mutually-exclusive feasible entities, all qualifying for the description 'god'. In choosing one, you reject all the others. On what grounds could anybody possibly argue that theirs is more valid than another? If you roll an infinity-sided dice, what's the probability of getting a six?
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Let's think of it this way: maybe some gods will excuse ignorance of following a different religion. God sees that the theist has the capability and humility to dedicate his or herself to a cause.
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Originally Posted by Kaimetsu
Certainly there are. I believe I even linked you to one a short time ago.
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You linked something about the mind and brain, but nothing about the creation of the universe.
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But any such theory is necessarily built around a core of uncertainty. What you are advocating is a god of the gaps - an entity invented to fill holes in our knowledge by migrating our ignorance. You create a god to explain the universe but you don't explain why he exists. Any argument you use is just a more bloated version of an atheistic equivalent.
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I don't think that any entity was invented to fill holes. I think the holes were put there later.
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A better idea than what? A chaotic universe? I already explained that it isn't a prerequisite for godlessness. And besides, I don't have any means of deciding whether an ordered universe is better or more logical than a chaotic one. Neither do you.
Summary: If you can't defend a statement, don't make it.
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There are infinite possibilities that would allow theists to go to heaven simply for believing in something higher than themselves and atheists to go to hell because they don't believe in something higher than themselves. But we aren't dealing with infinite solutions, just one. All that can be done is speculation as to what that one is... and speculation doesn't get anyone anywhere. Theists are sure of what exists, and they have as much proof as you do. You do not know what, if anything, exists and have as much proof as they do. Theists will ultimately have potential to live their lives not wondering questions without answers. That seems far superior than living searching for or wondering about the unobtainable.