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xXMonkeyManXx 05-21-2009 11:39 PM

Era's gone Downhill
 
I just have to say, Era is so corrupt. I used to LOVE Era. I lived and breathed it. But the staff system is stupid, it's all about the rich and who's famous. If your either one of those you get the job. Now I pay Zodiac.

There's no need for "your just stupid" or whatever you want to comment about. That's just the way I think Era is going. :rolleyes:

salesman 05-22-2009 01:07 AM

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Originally Posted by xXMonkeyManXx (Post 1492904)
I just have to say, Era is so corrupt. I used to LOVE Era. I lived and breathed it. But the staff system is stupid, it's all about the rich and who's famous. If your either one of those you get the job. Now I pay Zodiac.

There's no need for "your just stupid" or whatever you want to comment about. That's just the way I think Era is going. :rolleyes:

The staff system is about who's qualified. A lot of people on the staff team don't even play the game very much, so I don't know where you're getting your information from.

As far as corruption goes...there's several people who you can report this to, but I'd say that right now there's farrrrr less corruption than there has been in the past.

Sorry that you feel this way

papajchris 05-22-2009 02:06 AM

I was hired as GP a few months ago and I wasn't well known at all on Era. Being known helps, but that can go both ways. Some people have bad rep

DustyPorViva 05-22-2009 02:51 AM

Should migrate on over to Graal Ghetto. Seems to be the new Era. :pluffy:

Aldaris 05-22-2009 03:32 AM

Era went downhill a year or two ago.

xnervNATx 05-22-2009 05:03 AM

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Originally Posted by DustyPorViva (Post 1492968)
Should migrate on over to Graal Ghetto. Seems to be the new Era. :pluffy:

have fun getting lamed by staff's katana

Crono 05-22-2009 05:59 AM

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Originally Posted by xXMonkeyManXx (Post 1492904)
I just have to say, Era is so corrupt.

It's been that way for atleast 5 years you know.

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Originally Posted by xXMonkeyManXx
There's no need for "your just stupid" or whatever you want to comment about. That's just the way I think Era is going. :rolleyes:

It's been that way for atleast 5 years you know.

Pelikano 05-22-2009 08:39 AM

It ain't no secret, don't conceal the facts.

Graal Ghetto has more Players online than Era.
And Graal Ghetto is not even on the hosted Tab.

Era is WAY better than Graal Ghetto, scripts etc.
But it's the management that's fking ***

DarkRenji 05-22-2009 12:44 PM

why do you pay zodiac?

CharlieM 05-22-2009 12:56 PM

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Originally Posted by Pelikano (Post 1493020)
It ain't no secret, don't conceal the facts.

Graal Ghetto has more Players online than Era.
And Graal Ghetto is not even on the hosted Tab.

Era is WAY better than Graal Ghetto, scripts etc.
But it's the management that's fking ***

Since when has this happened? Last I was on GG there was 20 people online on GG, and 80 on era..and last night the player count was above 100 again

Pelikano 05-22-2009 03:28 PM

Yesterday evening (my evening) I was on Graal Ghetto, they had 76 Players and Era had 69.

CharlieM 05-22-2009 04:02 PM

Ah, my time era had the numbers I said earlier.

Frankie 05-22-2009 04:25 PM

the way they hire staff hardly relates to the reason why Era is going further downhill.

Aldaris 05-22-2009 04:59 PM

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Originally Posted by Frankie (Post 1493091)
the way they hire staff hardly relates to the reason why Era is going further downhill.

The reason why Era is going downhill is quite obvious, and I agree with you; it has little to do with the staff (though, in reality, it has a lot to do with the developmental staff). Era hasn't seen a notable update in some time that has reflected the PKing system (the core focus of what Era represents).

Pelikano 05-22-2009 05:18 PM

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Originally Posted by Aldaris (Post 1493101)
The reason why Era is going downhill is quite obvious, and I agree with you; it has little to do with the staff (though, in reality, it has a lot to do with the developmental staff). Era hasn't seen a notable update in some time that has reflected the PKing system (the core focus of what Era represents).

Uhm... no updates = it has to do with staff :S

Frankie 05-22-2009 05:52 PM

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Originally Posted by Pelikano (Post 1493106)
Uhm... no updates = it has to do with staff :S

the original post is claiming that Era has gone downhill because of the way staff are hired. we can agree the staff are the reason why Era is going downhill but it's not because the way they were hired lol.

Aldaris 05-22-2009 05:56 PM

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Originally Posted by Pelikano (Post 1493106)
Uhm... no updates = it has to do with staff :S

I'll post it again for you:

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(though, in reality, it has a lot to do with the developmental staff).

cbk1994 05-23-2009 07:12 AM

All I feel the need to say right now... please notice that 90% of Graal Ghetto's players are staff.


DuBsTeRmAn 05-23-2009 08:35 AM

Lol at all those staffs!

DustyPorViva 05-23-2009 08:38 AM

You assume Graal has these hills to go down.

Pelikano 05-23-2009 09:52 AM

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Originally Posted by Aldaris (Post 1493101)
The reason why Era is going downhill is quite obvious, and I agree with you; it has little to do with the staff (though, in reality, it has a lot to do with the developmental staff). Era hasn't seen a notable update in some time that has reflected the PKing system (the core focus of what Era represents).

Doesn't make any sense to me.

Donark 05-23-2009 02:31 PM

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Originally Posted by cbk1994 (Post 1493284)
All I feel the need to say right now...

And the only cool staff there is the one 8th down from the top :]

Thanatoses 05-24-2009 12:28 AM

Era's been downhill for decades, its on a steady decline, went rapid from TSAdmin to Icarus, bu now its back to its original downward slope.

Aldaris, you're contradicting yourself. You stated it had little to do with staff then stated a reason that had EVERYTHING to do with staff, lol. Era's decline has alot to do with staff, no sense in trying to bury that.

Dark_Zeratul101 05-24-2009 02:52 AM

Oh please it's been WORSE. Specifically when Ningnong, Jenn, Velox, Rick, Skyld, Chris, and Smu was manager. (Have I missed someone? I only came back after NeoJenova got the helm of Manager)

Pelikano 05-24-2009 10:00 AM

The only problem Era has, that it's "powerful" staff plays the game themselves!
Like Squirt, the GP Admin (I forgot his name) etc..

cbk1994 05-24-2009 05:55 PM

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Originally Posted by Pelikano (Post 1493604)
The only problem Era has, that it's "powerful" staff plays the game themselves!
Like Squirt, the GP Admin (I forgot his name) etc..

The "powerful" staff would be Deo, myself, Squirt, and perhaps Sales (he has influence). There is no GP Admin right now. Squirt fills that position.

The only one in the entire list of powerful staff that plays is Squirt.

Aldaris 05-24-2009 06:39 PM

@ Wil and Sam : You are missing my point. In the initial post, the creator of this thread stated that it is the corrupt attribute that each staff member carries that is the cause of Era's decline and overall implode of the server. Although this is a problem, I am sure (actually, positive) that it has little to do with the overall downward spiral that Era is currently following. The core problem as to why Era is on the decline has to do with the developmental staff, but not the staff team as a whole; a regular GP, or a regular ET have nothing to do with why Era is imploding.

Pelikano 05-24-2009 06:45 PM

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Originally Posted by Aldaris (Post 1493700)
@ Wil and Sam : You are missing my point. In the initial post, the creator of this thread stated that it is the corrupt attribute that each staff member carries that is the cause of Era's decline and overall implode of the server. Although this is a problem, I am sure (actually, positive) that it has little to do with the overall downward spiral that Era is currently following. The core problem as to why Era is on the decline has to do with the developmental staff, but not the staff team as a whole; a regular GP, or a regular ET have nothing to do with why Era is imploding.

"Era is on the decline"

what the hell does this mean?

Aldaris 05-24-2009 06:48 PM

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Originally Posted by Pelikano (Post 1493702)
"Era is on the decline"

what the hell does this mean?

Decline : "to slope downward."

Era + Decline (when used in a sentence) = Era is on the slope downward.

Identical to the phrase of "Era's gone Downhill." I assume you didn't know what the word "decline" meant?

Frankie 05-25-2009 12:01 AM

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Originally Posted by cbk1994 (Post 1493688)
The "powerful" staff would be Deo, myself, Squirt, and perhaps Sales (he has influence). There is no GP Admin right now. Squirt fills that position.

The only one in the entire list of powerful staff that plays is Squirt.

it's just as bad regardless of how many people on the upper staff tier play the server. the server and community is pretty small so one single person in such a high position has a huge influence on what goes on. in this case it happens to be squirt. now I'm not going to directly assume as if it's a true fact, but from what I heard he has a set speed level and a pretty over powered weapon that he reserved for himself when they were released. you know how annoying that is in gang events and gang raids? raiding is one of the main factors of pking and here we have the server administrator running around with set speed and a bull**** weapon.

don't forget about the time when you nerfed a weapon because you lost to someone using it in a spar. just because you suck at the game doesn't mean you go around changing things to fit your own game play.

I've also heard some rumors that you give your brother advantages.

I don't mean to look like an ******* here. I'm just going by what other people have told me. feel free to prove me wrong.

Nataxo 05-25-2009 12:10 AM

I never understood why they released a few of a kind Lightsaber, Bow and other cool weapons in the EC shop, sell them and then remove them from the shop to make them ultra-rare :[.

cbk1994 05-25-2009 12:13 AM

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Originally Posted by Frankie (Post 1493800)
don't forget about the time when you nerfed a weapon because you lost to someone using it in a spar. just because you suck at the game doesn't mean you go around changing things to fit your own game play.

What is wrong about nerfing a weapon after being beat by it? How would I possibly know that it needs nerfing unless I saw it in action or had it used against me? That was blown way out of proportion. I actually sped it up slightly, but decreased the damage to 24 (by one damage point), and increased the reload time by one twentieth of a second.
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I've also heard some rumors that you give your brother advantages.
There's nothing to prove here really. It's true that I'm the reason he became an Events Team member, and that he is now FAQ (though he applied for that against my recommendation. He thinks like me, and I figured he would enjoy being an Events Team staff. I therefore gave him a temporary tag and watched him host, and the next day asked the ETA if he would add him as a "trial" Events Team member, which he agreed to. I haven't touched his rank, etc since then.

Someone said I raised his speed level or something, which I did not, though I can't think of any way to prove that.

You'll have to be more specific I guess about what I supposedly did for him.

Frankie 05-25-2009 12:13 AM

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Originally Posted by Nataxo (Post 1493805)
I never understood why they released a few of a kind Lightsaber, Bow and other cool weapons in the EC shop, sell them and then remove them from the shop to make them ultra-rare :[.

simple answer, because they're idiots.

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Originally Posted by cbk1994
What is wrong about nerfing a weapon after being beat by it? How would I possibly know that it needs nerfing unless I saw it in action or had it used against me? That was blown way out of proportion. I actually sped it up slightly, but decreased the damage to 24 (by one damage point), and increased the reload time by one twentieth of a second.

it's more how you handled it. there should be a lot of thought when nerfing a gun. you can't just lose to it in a spar and quickly open the weapon on RC and start changing **** around. you have to realize that although it may look overpowered to you, to others it's not. your skill in sparring and pking can reflect how good a weapon looks. it takes someone with experience (like Masa) to edit the weapons accordingly.

cbk1994 05-25-2009 01:04 AM

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Originally Posted by Frankie (Post 1493808)
it's more how you handled it. there should be a lot of thought when nerfing a gun. you can't just lose to it in a spar and quickly open the weapon on RC and start changing **** around. you have to realize that although it may look overpowered to you, to others it's not. your skill in sparring and pking can reflect how good a weapon looks. it takes someone with experience (like Masa) to edit the weapons accordingly.

It was a bit rushed, I'll admit that, but the original edit was not the final. I did collaborate with Masa (he was on at the time; people tend to think that I'm the one who made all the changes). However, it's now back to nearly the original stats.

LordSquirt 05-25-2009 04:10 AM

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Originally Posted by Frankie (Post 1493800)
it's just as bad regardless of how many people on the upper staff tier play the server. the server and community is pretty small so one single person in such a high position has a huge influence on what goes on. in this case it happens to be squirt. now I'm not going to directly assume as if it's a true fact, but from what I heard he has a set speed level and a pretty over powered weapon that he reserved for himself when they were released. you know how annoying that is in gang events and gang raids? raiding is one of the main factors of pking and here we have the server administrator running around with set speed and a bull**** weapon.

My speed level is 10, however, I never set my speed. You can ask Dunez, Corey, and even Wil. They saw me in the gym like 24/7 since I was there with a goal. However, you might not believe me, however, do you think that the other staff would purposely let me set my speed to 10, or do you think the globals would even allow me to set my speed to 10? The answer is no. The only one who has spawned speed right now I think is TSA, however, he doesn't play often so it doesn't really matter.

In regards to the bow, I never stocked the item, I never set the stats on the item, nor was I even told when the item was stocked. I'm only one of three people who have it and it isn't my fault since they really aren't active that i'm the only actively using it. I'm even in favor of stocking another one, however, it's not really my choice and is up to Deo which he said no to.

Frankie9011 05-25-2009 04:44 AM

I'm interesting into knowing why the bows were stocked at 6:15am eastern considering 80% of era's playerbase was sleeping at that time. I was online at the time, yes, but I had just recently purchased the Flak Cannon so I was out of EC's.
That was stocked at 9:10pm eastern, mind you.

DustyPorViva 05-25-2009 04:52 AM

Guns should just be balanced with a point system(100 points to distribute among the stats), I imagine it would make balancing a bit less of a chore.

Frankie9011 05-25-2009 06:01 AM

That would work for attributes on a RPG such as strength/intelligence/etc
Not so much guns on era.

DustyPorViva 05-25-2009 06:05 AM

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Originally Posted by Frankie9011 (Post 1493884)
That would work for attributes on a RPG such as strength/intelligence/etc
Not so much guns on era.

Why not? If you translate every stat/benefit on guns into numbers, then give them a point system I don't see how there would be much imbalance. Honestly I've never worked with balancing guns, but I can't see much room for flaw in such a system.

cbk1994 05-25-2009 06:07 AM

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Originally Posted by DustyPorViva (Post 1493885)
Why not? If you translate every stat/benefit on guns into numbers, then give them a point system I don't see how there would be much imbalance. Honestly I've never worked with balancing guns, but I can't see much room for flaw in such a system.

It would still have to be done by someone skilled with it, and it would be impossible to put in numbers since it's not really linear.

e.g.

Spread - 90
Damage - 5
Freeze - 3
Sleep - 2


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