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Deas_Voice 04-03-2009 09:28 PM

Once Again...
 
...there was an hacker on Zone without any staffs online, srsly, Zone NEEDS more active staffs, there are rarely any staffs online that could take care of hackers.

Schetti 04-03-2009 09:29 PM

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Originally Posted by Deas_Voice (Post 1480720)
...there was an hacker on Zone without any staffs online, srsly, Zone NEEDS more active staffs, there are rarely any staffs online that could take care of hackers.

err..
I could make this post like 2-4 times a day

Jesper 04-03-2009 09:30 PM

You're not the first one who made an tread about it xD

But I agree.

Zone is dieing, it needs a higher playercount ...

Deas_Voice 04-03-2009 09:38 PM

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Originally Posted by Schetti (Post 1480722)
err..
I could make this post like 2-4 times a day

why don't you then?
it's important that Zone have staffs on to prevent these kind of things.

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Originally Posted by Jesper (Post 1480723)
You're not the first one who made an tread about it xD

But I agree.

Zone is dieing, it needs a higher playercount ...

i know i'm not the first one to make a thread about it, thank you very much.
could you go with the Zone=Dead discussion somewhere else please?

Schetti 04-03-2009 09:46 PM

I cant just make new posts, because a guest hax all the day ...

Deas_Voice 04-03-2009 09:49 PM

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Originally Posted by Schetti (Post 1480729)
I cant just make new posts, because a guest hax all the day ...

yeah you can, like providing the pcid, when, how.

Donark 04-03-2009 09:53 PM

Actually the staff is pretty active. But we don't have access during the day because we're usually at school.

Deas_Voice 04-03-2009 09:55 PM

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Originally Posted by Donark (Post 1480733)
Actually the staff is pretty active. But we don't have access during the day because we're usually at school.

i didn't mean ET's, i meant people with RC to Zone mainly.

Liberated 04-03-2009 10:07 PM

this is probably gonna be locked, last time i made a thread like this, i was told not to make a thread about hackers, but post a ticket instead.

Deas_Voice 04-03-2009 10:10 PM

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Originally Posted by Liberated (Post 1480738)
this is probably gonna be locked, last time i made a thread like this, i was told not to make a thread about hackers, but post a ticket instead.

read the thread please, it's about lack of staffs that can PREVENT hackers to come to Zone and cheat.

Nataxo 04-03-2009 10:26 PM

rehire meeee, hackers <3 me

Ravenblade1979 04-04-2009 02:14 AM

*sighs* another one of these topics.

Shadow5596321 04-04-2009 03:23 AM

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Originally Posted by Nataxo (Post 1480745)
rehire meeee, hackers <3 me

Yes. Rehire her to prove my point.

Minomato 04-04-2009 05:34 AM

More staff, even frequent staff, wouldn't solve the problem, simply because the staff can't really do anything, since most hackers can bypass bans. Not to mention, you have to be at a certain level on the staff ladder to be able to keep them off the server (until they bypass). The most an ET can do is lock them, which also fails against guest hackers and IP changing. The only way this problem is going to go away is when the hackers get bored of screwing with people, which, strangely enough, involves the server count "dying." What good is hacking on a server with roughly 6 people on it a day? It would yield little in benefits to them.

Believe it or not, this is a problem we have to wait out. No quick "band-aids" are going to be able to fix it.

seanthien 04-04-2009 06:44 AM

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Originally Posted by Jesper (Post 1480723)
You're not the first one who made an tread about it xD

But I agree.

Zone is dieing, it needs a higher playercount ...

Zone is dead.
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Originally Posted by Deas_Voice (Post 1480725)
why don't you then?
it's important that Zone have staffs on to prevent these kind of things.



i know i'm not the first one to make a thread about it, thank you very much.
could you go with the Zone=Dead discussion somewhere else please?

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Originally Posted by Deas_Voice (Post 1480730)
yeah you can, like providing the pcid, when, how.

Because this isn't where you tell people of hackers. If you want someone banned because they're hacking have proof and send a support ticket.

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Originally Posted by Minomato (Post 1480805)
More staff, even frequent staff, wouldn't solve the problem, simply because the staff can't really do anything, since most hackers can bypass bans. Not to mention, you have to be at a certain level on the staff ladder to be able to keep them off the server (until they bypass). The most an ET can do is lock them, which also fails against guest hackers and IP changing. The only way this problem is going to go away is when the hackers get bored of screwing with people, which, strangely enough, involves the server count "dying." What good is hacking on a server with roughly 6 people on it a day? It would yield little in benefits to them.

Believe it or not, this is a problem we have to wait out. No quick "band-aids" are going to be able to fix it.

Way 2 say it all. Hi5.

MiniOne 04-04-2009 11:50 AM

Simple solution, get a better hack protection for graal.

Ravenblade1979 04-04-2009 06:20 PM

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Originally Posted by MiniOne (Post 1480841)
Simple solution, get a better hack protection for graal.

hell would freeze over before this happened lol j/k

@sean: its just another crying topic. People call other people hackers because they get pwned. I seen it all too often.

Deas_Voice 04-04-2009 06:49 PM

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Originally Posted by Ravenblade1979 (Post 1480944)
@sean: its just another crying topic. People call other people hackers because they get pwned. I seen it all too often.

i'm not crying about it, i don't care if i get "pwned" by a hacker, because i'm mostly on the dropship.
i just think that its kinda odd because if you look on other servers, most of the time there is 1-4 people with RCs (sure they cant ban him but they can scare him off.)

RealDDc 04-04-2009 08:00 PM

;)

RevolutionJS 04-04-2009 09:39 PM

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Originally Posted by Ravenblade1979 (Post 1480944)
hell would freeze over before this happened lol j/k

@sean: its just another crying topic. People call other people hackers because they get pwned. I seen it all too often.

Wow... you should come online 10:00 servertime, go on iricia and try to fight then.. but DON't cry if they pwn you.

Elizabeth 04-04-2009 10:10 PM

if someone's hacking and there's no staff online, you don't make a thread about it. you take a video, or screenshot of it, and get a witness. you then report it to a staff member.

Deas_Voice 04-04-2009 11:17 PM

why is it so hard for people to stay on tropic?
i made this thread because i think there should be more people with RC on zone because it makes hacker go somewhere else so they don't get banned (even if the guys with RC cant ban, it still scares hackers off)
sure ET's can lock them but it doesn't scare them off.

seanthien 04-05-2009 02:58 AM

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Originally Posted by RevolutionJS (Post 1480992)
Wow... you should come online 10:00 servertime, go on iricia and try to fight then.. but DON't cry if they pwn you.

Hackers are fun realy if you don't care too much about your stats. It's fun to attempt and kill them and they freak out if you keep winning.
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Originally Posted by Deas_Voice (Post 1481017)
why is it so hard for people to stay on tropic?
i made this thread because i think there should be more people with RC on zone because it makes hacker go somewhere else so they don't get banned (even if the guys with RC cant ban, it still scares hackers off)
sure ET's can lock them but it doesn't scare them off.

XD I wonder if your mind can get any more naive.

1. The mood you set on this thread was you're angry because hackers are owning you. "Once Again.." Implies you were killed by a hacker over and over, again. If you were on dropship all the time why would you care?

2. Hackers get on graal knowing they are likely to get banned, or get banned and find a way to bypass it. I doubt people with just RC are gonna scare them away.

3. It's not hard for people to stay on topic, just this thread is kinda fail.

4. Some hacks are made just for that server.

5. Other servers have people working and/or have a higher playercount so people with rights are needed.

Deas_Voice 04-05-2009 03:10 AM

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Originally Posted by seanthien (Post 1481066)
Hackers are fun realy if you don't care too much about your stats. It's fun to attempt and kill them and they freak out if you keep winning.

agreed.
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1. The mood you set on this thread was you're angry because hackers are owning you. "Once Again.." Implies you were killed by a hacker over and over, again. If you were on dropship all the time why would you care?
i was never angry about it and
i was never killed by this hacker since he used ice cannon.
i care because i believe in Zone somehow.
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2. Hackers get on graal knowing they are likely to get banned, or get banned and find a way to bypass it. I doubt people with just RC are gonna scare them away.
sure they know that they likely going to get banned, but its only a few that acutely care to find a way to bypass it.
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3. It's not hard for people to stay on topic, just this thread is kinda fail.
fine then.
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4. Some hacks are made just for that server.
like i didn't know that?
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5. Other servers have people working and/or have a higher playercount so people with rights are needed.
exactly what im trying to talk about. :)

Shadow5596321 04-05-2009 04:53 AM

Guys it doesn't matter. They haz l33t haxs now. Although a ET could have some fun with them.

If Jesse would let me have warp and summon commands. I haz a event.

seanthien 04-05-2009 07:53 AM

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sure they know that they likely going to get banned, but its only a few that acutely care to find a way to bypass it.
Like John said, they have awesome hacks. John should be ET, he'd find a way to torture them and laugh and have fun while doing it. I'd log on just to see it happen.

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5. Other servers have people working and/or have a higher playercount so people with rights are needed.
Quote:

exactly what im trying to talk about. :)

Erm. Maybe you didn't quite understand. Other servers have people on that server with rights that can ban and such and deal with matters such as those. Zone, has Zone debug that people work on. Are you trying to say that you want those rights? Anyhow, Zone doesn't have a realy high playercount so 10 people with RC on zone is a bad idea.

MiniOne 04-05-2009 08:11 AM

Other servers actually hirer more then five staff who can ban. Note that most of the five aren't active.

RealDDc 04-05-2009 03:37 PM

Poor Zone.

Deas_Voice 04-05-2009 05:43 PM

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Originally Posted by seanthien (Post 1481116)
Are you trying to say that you want those rights?

no im not, i rather work then keeping an eye on people.

Nataxo 04-05-2009 07:31 PM

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Originally Posted by seanthien (Post 1481116)
Like John said, they have awesome hacks. John should be ET, he'd find a way to torture them and laugh and have fun while doing it. I'd log on just to see it happen.

You make no sense.

You mean make John GP?

bahamutstevetff 04-05-2009 11:23 PM

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Originally Posted by Elizabeth (Post 1480996)
if someone's hacking and there's no staff online, you don't make a thread about it. you take a video, or screenshot of it, and get a witness. you then report it to a staff member.

and zone staff dont do bugger all.

darksage15 04-06-2009 12:50 AM

No matter how many staff there are, there's always gonna be a hacker on when you're the only other one on. It's just Graal forget about it.

pooper200000 04-06-2009 01:32 AM

I usually deal with hackers but I was on vacation last week. That might be part of the problem.

Shadow5596321 04-06-2009 01:52 AM

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Originally Posted by pooper200000 (Post 1481380)
I usually deal with hackers but I was on vacation last week. That might be part of the problem.

Hmm. So that's why my posts haven't been deleted.

seanthien 04-06-2009 03:30 AM

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Originally Posted by Nataxo (Post 1481256)
You make no sense.

You mean make John GP?

You just fail to understand, I make perfect sense. Try reading it again.
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Originally Posted by Shadow5596321 (Post 1481382)
Hmm. So that's why my posts haven't been deleted.

XD

Nataxo 04-06-2009 04:30 AM

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Originally Posted by seanthien (Post 1481395)
You just fail to understand, I make perfect sense. Try reading it again.

As far as I know, ETs host events and GPs deal with player dissorder/ hackers / glitchers / etc. am i rite?

When there's no GP Staff a ET can use its commands to temporarly stop the hacker until a GP comes around.

seanthien 04-06-2009 05:05 AM

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Originally Posted by Nataxo (Post 1481406)
As far as I know, ETs host events and GPs deal with player dissorder/ hackers / glitchers / etc. am i rite?

When there's no GP Staff a ET can use its commands to temporarly stop the hacker until a GP comes around.

Ya, that's on a normal server. Zone's not normal, ET's work as Gp's pretty much. Does Zone even have a GP? Last I recall Mike was GP, and he resigned.

MiniOne 04-06-2009 08:32 AM

I'm quite sure the only GP we have is Supernanny, other then that we have no other GPs.
Also in Zone ETs are suppose to be the ones who ban and etc, since Dante55555 (Mike) use to test them on their ability to catch hackers.

Ravenblade1979 04-06-2009 05:07 PM

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Originally Posted by MiniOne (Post 1481440)
Also in Zone ETs are suppose to be the ones who ban and etc, since Dante55555 (Mike) use to test them on their ability to catch hackers.

Have you taken a bump on the head recently. ET's are NOT supposed to be able to ban. They can lock and report glitchers/hackers to higher staff but they are not supposed to be able to ban. Dante55555 (Mike) also had more staff rights then people were aware of so I can see how you would mistake ET's being able to ban with him having the right too.

bahamutstevetff 04-06-2009 05:55 PM

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Originally Posted by MiniOne (Post 1481440)
Dante55555 (Mike)

just thought you should know, Dante wants you to stop calling him mike as you are not his friends. well there was another remark, it got magiked away :(


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