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salesman 02-04-2009 12:36 AM

Movement opinion
 
Hi, I'd like to hear what you guys think about the type of movement for the server I am working on.

http://forums.graalonline.com/forums...ad.php?t=83922

We're pretty set on attempting WASD/mouse aiming, but still have some doubts. Please let me know what you'd prefer and why.

Rufus 02-04-2009 12:37 AM

I prefer allowing players to decide their own keys for movement via the Graal options. You don't want your server to be inconsistent and unnecessarily uncomfortable to get used to through your own personal preferences.

Tigairius 02-04-2009 12:41 AM

I'm voting classic movement system until I could see a good working WASD system.

salesman 02-04-2009 12:42 AM

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Originally Posted by Rufus (Post 1462650)
I prefer allowing players to decide their own keys for movement via the Graal options. You don't want your server to be inconsistent and unnecessarily uncomfortable to get used to through your own personal preferences.

I agree...however, depending on what we go with, gameplay will change dramatically. If we use the mouse for aiming, then projectiles can travel in any given direction rather than just straight (like era).

It wouldn't work to allow players to choose between the two, because they would be at a disadvantage when using standard movement.

DarkReaper0 02-04-2009 12:44 AM

Four directional shooting systems fail.

You get stuff like Era.

Sage_Shadowbane 02-04-2009 01:15 AM

I vote WASD movement because for one, its unique. And secondly it opens up a wide array of new possibilities in gameplay. Especially with the sales given gameplay idea (which is similar to CS/Battlefield/CoD)

DustyPorViva 02-04-2009 01:20 AM

Why not just have options? What happens if someone uses their mouse left-handed?

Nataxo 02-04-2009 01:20 AM

I'l always used the Graal so.... =P

salesman 02-04-2009 01:34 AM

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Originally Posted by DustyPorViva (Post 1462666)
Why not just have options? What happens if someone uses their mouse left-handed?

That's possible, but you'd still using the mouse to aim/shoot. I'm saying options for switching between mouse shooting and key shooting would not be practical.

DustyPorViva 02-04-2009 01:38 AM

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Originally Posted by salesman (Post 1462670)
That's possible, but you'd still using the mouse to aim/shoot. I'm saying options for switching between mouse shooting and key shooting would not be practical.

Meh, if people want to gimp themselves by using only keyboard why not?

Bl0nkt 02-04-2009 03:02 AM

Way back when on Gman's Atrius, he created WASD movement with mouse shooting. It worked fairly well except for the fact that on inside levels, you'd often end up walking backwards when you go near the edges since the mouse runs out of room to be in front of the player.

DustyPorViva 02-04-2009 03:04 AM

I don't see how WASD = movement and mouse = aim could go too horribly wrong.

Cloven 02-04-2009 03:24 AM

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Originally Posted by DustyPorViva (Post 1462709)
I don't see how WASD = movement and mouse = aim could go too horribly wrong.

I'd imagine it's all contingent upon what it's going to be used for. :)

Loriel 02-04-2009 08:41 AM

Voting standard Graal movement with mouse aiming.

DustyPorViva 02-04-2009 08:45 AM

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Originally Posted by Cloven (Post 1462716)
I'd imagine it's all contingent upon what it's going to be used for. :)

What I mean is WASD is basically the arrow keys mapped to the left side of the keyboard. That = classic movement, then just some mouse aiming... really, it would take a lot to have that go bad.

Clockwork 02-04-2009 08:46 AM

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Originally Posted by Tigairius (Post 1462653)
I'm voting classic movement system until I could see a good working WASD system.

I had one on my server ;_;

On another note, maybe I should just let you guys use a backup of my old server since I'm not doing anything with it, and you all seem to have around the same idea I had anyways. XD

DustyPorViva 02-04-2009 08:53 AM

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Originally Posted by Clockwork (Post 1462763)
I had one on my server ;_;

On another note, maybe I should just let you guys use a backup of my old server since I'm not doing anything with it, and you all seem to have around the same idea I had anyways. XD

Lord of the Swine? Honestly that system had some pretty bad wall detection.

Clockwork 02-04-2009 08:58 AM

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Originally Posted by DustyPorViva (Post 1462764)
Lord of the Swine? Honestly that system had some pretty bad wall detection.

Wartime >>; not LoTS

Yaknow...Testbed before testbed.

DustyPorViva 02-04-2009 09:00 AM

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Originally Posted by Clockwork (Post 1462765)
Wartime >>; not LoTS

Yaknow...Testbed before testbed.

Oh ya, LotS was still up on Wartime, that's why I remember it. Either way it's the system i was talking about.

Clockwork 02-04-2009 09:21 AM

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Originally Posted by DustyPorViva (Post 1462766)
Oh ya, LotS was still up on Wartime, that's why I remember it. Either way it's the system i was talking about.

but we had all the detection problems worked out ~.~;;

DustyPorViva 02-04-2009 09:26 AM

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Originally Posted by Clockwork (Post 1462768)
but we had all the detection problems worked out ~.~;;

I don't remember that. I just remember the detection was a bit off and it didn't have important stuff like corner sliding and such.

xXziroXx 02-04-2009 06:32 PM

WASD + mouse definitely, if it comes even closely to the awesomeness of Counter-Strike 2D. Drakilor scripted a mouse movement for an oooold version of Mythic, I'll dig around in backups and see if I can find it.


Pre-Post Quick Reply Edit: It seems this is what I thought of.

http://forums.graalonline.com/forums...ad.php?t=72985

Has great detection, and should be editable to remove the click-to-move part.

Sky 02-04-2009 08:00 PM

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Originally Posted by xXziroXx (Post 1462833)
WASD + mouse definitely, if it comes even closely to the awesomeness of Counter-Strike 2D. Drakilor scripted a mouse movement for an oooold version of Mythic, I'll dig around in backups and see if I can find it.


Pre-Post Quick Reply Edit: It seems this is what I thought of.

http://forums.graalonline.com/forums...ad.php?t=72985

Has great detection, and should be editable to remove the click-to-move part.

=o Cool.


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