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pico57 10-31-2008 10:01 PM

Zone Wars + speeders = ?
 
about 2 weeks before,
Speeders received a NO, for add them permanently on Iricia.
Why not add the permanently on Zone Wars?

i think more players would play on.. and we could use some speeders.
we have very rarely occasions to play with...
(When nataxo host vehicle events on Gwars^^)

wat do you think of it?!
:eek:
:fro:

Nataxo 10-31-2008 10:35 PM

Kewl
 
i think its a good idea, though you might want to nerf it to be more vulnerable to destroy it.
like mechs can kill them
make them a bit slower
spawn turrets with ability to destroy speeders and people >:]

just trowing a few ideas =P


Quote:

Originally Posted by pico57 (Post 1437982)
we have very rarely occasions to play with...
(When nataxo host vehicle events on Gwars^^)

^^

jkool666 10-31-2008 11:05 PM

Mm well if 1 speeder was enabled on Lightside along with two bikes that'd be interesting. At the moment the Darkside is extremely overpowered lol.

pico57 11-01-2008 12:14 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jkool666 (Post 1438008)
Mm well if 1 speeder was enabled on Lightside along with two bikes that'd be interesting. At the moment the Darkside is extremely overpowered lol.

Lol true.

mech can make the difference.
At the moment, ther is 3 mechs on DArkisde.
Why not only give to Darkside : 1 mech and 1 speeder.

and for light side : 2 speeders, ans 2 bikes.

Huwajux 11-01-2008 02:09 AM

No, this is what happened before. Don't let history repeat itself. With speeders the lightside will become overpowered.

Nefir 11-01-2008 02:34 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Huwajux (Post 1438052)
No, this is what happened before. Don't let history repeat itself. With speeders the lightside will become overpowered.


Well, if my meory is right, there was 6 speeders right? Let's just add two, or at least add one and remove some Mechs... Because getting teamed by three mechs+ isin't so fun.

Dante55555 11-01-2008 03:20 AM

If you can provide a system that will work (I can't stress the importance of that part enough) and recieve enough votes in favor of them coming back I will add spawns back.

Do note that I will make the final decision judging on the system proposed by the players. Everyone post your ideas and if Dan and I agree on it we will put speeders back.

Huwajux will be the devils advocate here. I'll be rather dissapointed with him if he doesn't destroy at least 3 propositions.

RevolutionJS 11-01-2008 10:07 AM

Hmm Speeders to overpowered they are hard to get down, Make something first to kill the speeders and then its very Cool.

Jesper 11-01-2008 10:11 AM

Give light and Dark One speeder, One mech, and 2 bikes.

Now dark is better, because they have overpowered mechs.

pico57 11-01-2008 11:07 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by RevolutionJS (Post 1438140)
Hmm Speeders to overpowered they are hard to get down, Make something first to kill the speeders and then its very Cool.


on Zone wars, they are easy to destroy.
a mech can destroy a flying speeder.
and dont forget,
-dark and light side have
-Beam,
-tazers(dont rember the name exact of this melee weapon.)
-taze bombs.


Zone wars, have all weapons, which can do a *failure* on vehicles

Dumdumdidi 11-01-2008 11:11 AM

@pico57
its electron O_o

pico57 11-01-2008 11:15 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dumdumdidi (Post 1438143)
@pico57
its electron O_o


ty for the precizion... but i guess its Underst"able" tazer no? z.z


:fro:

jkool666 11-01-2008 02:24 PM

The way I see it...

-Darkside is extremely overpowered at the moment
-In the past when Speeders were enabled there were 4 Spawn points for Speeders, I'm sudgesting 1 or 2 at most on Lightside
-As Pico said, Darkpowers class features Beam, Tazebomb, Electron and if you have it, Streamer (which can freeze speeders)

Crono 11-01-2008 02:51 PM

Speeders should have never existed.

pooper200000 11-01-2008 03:01 PM

Hmmm. I want to play devil's advocate.

Why don't we just remove all vehicles? (Mechs and bikes)

If long walks became a problem, the map size could be changed.

Dante55555 11-01-2008 03:08 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by pooper200000 (Post 1438162)
Hmmm. I want to play devil's advocate.

Ok.

Quote:

Why not remove all vehicles
You're fired.

Huwajux 11-01-2008 03:09 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by pooper200000 (Post 1438162)
Why don't we just remove all vehicles? (Mechs and bikes)

If long walks became a problem, the map size could be changed.

No, this isn't the answer. Vehicles were meant to be a key part of Zone Wars when it was first released and that shouldn't be changed. The simplest solution would be to add 2 speeders to the Light Side, therefore people rarely become overwhelmed by them and you even have a chance to take both speeders down if you are all alone.

pooper200000 11-01-2008 03:14 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dante55555 (Post 1438164)
Ok.

You're fired.

I meant only on Zone wars. Or would your answer still remain the same?

Quote:

Originally Posted by Huwajux (Post 1438165)
No, this isn't the answer. Vehicles were meant to be a key part of Zone Wars when it was first released and that shouldn't be changed. The simplest solution would be to add 2 speeders to the Light Side, therefore people rarely become overwhelmed by them and you even have a chance to take both speeders down if you are all alone.

I agree.

jkool666 11-01-2008 03:15 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by pooper200000 (Post 1438162)
Hmmm. I want to play devil's advocate.

Why don't we just remove all vehicles? (Mechs and bikes)

If long walks became a problem, the map size could be changed.

The planets made to have some vehicle activity. If we remove all vehicles Lightside would be overpowered.
Lightside Speed > Darkside Speed
Lightside also has increased damage Plasmasabre lol (2 hit kill)

Dante55555 11-01-2008 03:40 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by pooper200000 (Post 1438167)
I meant only on Zone wars.

Ah.

Nataxo 11-01-2008 04:45 PM

Speeders.
 
hmmmm...
  • Add Two Speeders on "Lightside".
  • Make those Speeders a bit slower.
  • Make them vulnerable to Tazebombs/electron/mechs/beam/streamer.

Do you think that could work? I do!

Dante55555 11-01-2008 04:59 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Nataxo (Post 1438193)
  • Add Two Speeders on "Lightside".
  • Make those Speeders a bit slower.
  • Make them vulnerable to Tazebombs/electron/mechs/beam/streamer.

1.) We'll see.
2.) Elaborate that statement.
3.) They already are.

Nataxo 11-01-2008 05:06 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dante55555 (Post 1438197)
2.) Elaborate that statement.

well, i havent experienced many Speeder events...most of time time I host them.

but i think that with a speeder you want scape very far away and get to places VERY quickly, so why nerf the speed a bit so they are more....destroyable :u

Huwajux 11-01-2008 06:16 PM

Yeah, speeders need to be slowed down a bit.

BigBear3 11-01-2008 06:43 PM

Speeders?!?!?!!!!?!!?!?!??!
















More copyright infridgements?!!?

RevolutionJS 11-01-2008 09:03 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BigBear3 (Post 1438212)
Speeders?!?!?!!!!?!!?!?!??!
















More copyright infridgements?!!?

Yes Speeder, If you cant read just buy glasses.

AlexP_P 11-02-2008 03:17 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Crono (Post 1438160)
Speeders should have never existed.

hmm? y xd
i know the are bothersome but, if the speeders wouldn't have been created the helicopters would still be on Zone debug because i believe that some scripts that are used for the speeders are also used in the Helicopters........

Crono 11-02-2008 03:39 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by AlexP_P (Post 1438312)
hmm? y xd
i know the are bothersome but, if the speeders wouldn't have been created the helicopters would still be on Zone debug because i believe that some scripts that are used for the speeders are also used in the Helicopters........

Speeders were nothing but an annoyance in Zone Wars if you played Dark Side. Speeders in general annoy me, even when they're on my team.

Jesper 11-02-2008 11:30 AM

Why you can't shoot on the bike at Ircia?

I think it isn't lame.

It would be funny, when it is allowed!

pico57 11-02-2008 11:53 AM

yes. that would be cool, if we could do like on G wars.
1 vehicle is for driving, the second vehicle press D. in order to folowthe 1st and then he cans shoot.

(its like bike-sled)

Jesper 11-02-2008 11:54 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by pico57 (Post 1438356)
yes. that would be cool, if we could do like on G wars.
1 vehicle is for driving, the second vehicle press D. in order to folowthe 1st and then he cans shoot.

(its like bike-sled)

Yes.

And there are no GLITCHES :D

RevolutionJS 11-02-2008 01:17 PM

Ye would be very cool.

jurre24d 11-02-2008 01:29 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jesper (Post 1438352)
Why you can't shoot on the bike at Ircia?

I think it isn't lame.

It would be funny, when it is allowed!


For this idea are much glitches. I know the glitches.
I dont think its a good idea. soz

Jesper 11-02-2008 01:33 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jurre24d (Post 1438362)
For this idea are much glitches. I know the glitches.
I dont think its a good idea. soz

Tell me some !

RevolutionJS 11-02-2008 01:39 PM

Hmm But maybe are those glitches fixable.

bahamutstevetff 11-02-2008 01:45 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jesper (Post 1438352)
Why you can't shoot on the bike at Ircia?

I think it isn't lame.

It would be funny, when it is allowed!

because before you could shoot on a bike at iricia, and everyone complained.

Jesper 11-02-2008 01:54 PM

Why they complained?

I asked players on Zone, almost every one want it !

bahamutstevetff 11-02-2008 03:46 PM

because it was annoying.

Crono 11-02-2008 04:38 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jesper (Post 1438352)
Why you can't shoot on the bike at Ircia?

I think it isn't lame.

It would be funny, when it is allowed!

You used to be able to before, but Stefan mis-interpreted my suggestion. I originally wanted a driver and a passenger who sits on the trunk of the bike. The driver wouldn't be able to shoot but the passenger would be free to shoot in any direction.

Stefan, instead, made it so two bikes could be linked together and anyone could shoot.

Huwajux 11-02-2008 05:42 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jesper (Post 1438366)
Why they complained?

I asked players on Zone, almost every one want it !

A couple of your friends doesn't constitute as 'almost everyone'.

If people were able to shoot on the bikes then the gameplay would become too focussed on the necessity of being in a vehicle to survive. At the moment it is in a decent balance.


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