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Aldaris 10-05-2008 05:37 AM

PPSH: The debate!
 
The PPSH no longer requires a "Bratski Krug" tag to use it. However, with this new feature, the price has sky-rocketed, making Era's economy even more flawed. You basically just gave $500,000 in each PPSH owners pocket.

What should be done:
-A staff block should be introduced for $50,000 at "unstick me"
-A quest should be added, which would allow players to buy the PPSH for $20,000, granted they make it to the end.

Why should this be done:
-Nobody would lose money, or gain money.
-The money it would cost to buy the PPSH from the quest, would drain money out of the economy.
-It would add something for Era players to do.

Post your opinions.

DarkRenji 10-05-2008 05:44 AM

Why not just keep it tag locked, although people would be scaming it would die off...

I sold my PPSH for 50k then it became untaged witch was pretty *** z.Z

And why would there be a staff block paying 50k for things you -could- buy for 20k

Yocas 10-05-2008 06:03 AM

If every gun's gani was redone like the PPSH, it wouldn't be so special.

cbk1994 10-05-2008 06:27 AM

Are you kidding? Buying a gun for $20k would definitely drain money out of the economy, until you sell it to an NPC for $50k.

TSAdmin 10-05-2008 12:20 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Aldaris
What should be done:
-A staff block should be introduced for $50,000 at "unstick me"
-A quest should be added, which would allow players to buy the PPSH for $20,000, granted they make it to the end.


Why should this be done:
-Nobody would lose money, or gain money.
-The money it would cost to buy the PPSH from the quest, would drain money out of the economy.
-It would add something for Era players to do.

As far as I can see, and call me Economically stupid if I'm wrong, but someone buys the $20k PPSH from quest, sells it for $50k at unstick me.... The player GAINS a free $30k, the server DRAINS...what?

thesmoothcriminal 10-05-2008 12:56 PM

whats a PPSH?

xJenn 10-05-2008 01:28 PM

HEY YOU! KIMMY HAS SOMETHING TO SAY!

Quote:

Originally Posted by thesmoothcriminal (Post 1429026)
whats a PPSH?

It's a gun that was Ganglocked to Bratski Krug which is a gang that got deleted.

What about just remove the PPSH all together? Make an NPC for how much they where sold for in the gang as a refund. The economy won't gain money because it's just putting money back, and no one will lose money because the money is refunded [unless you are one of those people who bought it off another person for 12083712k]

ORR create the quest so the PPSH amount lowers for the economy?
Not sure about guns tbh, but this is my opinion on this. x_x;


That is all.

Frankie 10-05-2008 04:03 PM

the one thing I'm really sick of is dealing with deleted gangs and their gang gun.
I haven't decided what I wanted to do with it, and when I finally went to go untag lock it, somebody else got there before me, so we'll leave it at that.

CharlieM 10-05-2008 04:28 PM

I think he means put the block there for a couple days or a week to get them out of the economy. Then delete the block and release a quest that a player can by a PPSH its common sense...:\

cbk1994 10-05-2008 04:38 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by CharlieM (Post 1429089)
I think he means put the block there for a couple days or a week to get them out of the economy. Then delete the block and release a quest that a player can by a PPSH its common sense...:\

... lol?

The best thing, in my opinion, to do would be to sell your PPSH's to an NPC for 50k or something, then later remove them.

What kind of person is going to spend 500k on a gun, then sell it for 50k when they know that it's not going anywhere any time soon?

xAzerothx 10-05-2008 04:45 PM

The economy is already ****ed on Era, no? I doubt you can save it with just the PPSHs.

You shouldn't do anything with them. The players should be able to do what they please with it. They were around for the gang to rise and fall. They deserve a reward for their time spent on Era.

Frankie 10-05-2008 05:10 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by CharlieM (Post 1429089)
I think he means put the block there for a couple days or a week to get them out of the economy. Then delete the block and release a quest that a player can by a PPSH its common sense...:\

either way the person is making 30k out of nowhere just for having a PPSH. he can sell it, then do the quest. duh

natchez416 10-05-2008 05:21 PM

You should concentrate your efforts on new post reset era.
Current era is to far gone, let it burn.

CharlieM 10-05-2008 05:46 PM

So make it a quest prize and untradeable bam problem solved

Shotoo2 10-05-2008 06:32 PM

I remember when we taglocked gang weapons because some katanas got out :D

Elizabeth 10-05-2008 07:22 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by xJenn (Post 1429033)
HEY YOU! KIMMY HAS SOMETHING TO SAY!


It's a gun that was Ganglocked to Bratski Krug which is a gang that got deleted.

What about just remove the PPSH all together? Make an NPC for how much they where sold for in the gang as a refund. The economy won't gain money because it's just putting money back, and no one will lose money because the money is refunded [unless you are one of those people who bought it off another person for 12083712k]

ORR create the quest so the PPSH amount lowers for the economy?
Not sure about guns tbh, but this is my opinion on this. x_x;


That is all.


your choice of font size/font/"that is all" is reaaaaaaaaaaallly annoying

Aldaris 10-05-2008 07:38 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Frankie (Post 1429132)
either way the person is making 30k out of nowhere just for having a PPSH. he can sell it, then do the quest. duh

It's better than people making 600k out of nowhere, isn't it?

Understood 10-05-2008 07:55 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Aldaris (Post 1429295)
It's better than people making 600k out of nowhere, isn't it?

It's not out of nowhere...it's out of someone else's pocket.

CharlieM 10-05-2008 07:59 PM

So do my last post then you dont have to worry about people earning mad money from it

Aldaris 10-05-2008 08:02 PM

My whole thing is that you shouldn't be handing out profits like it's candy. I guess you could say it's jealously, but they practically will earn 500-600k+ for doing absolutely nothing.

CharlieM 10-05-2008 08:04 PM

So make the PPSH a quest gun and untradeable

DarkReaper0 10-05-2008 08:08 PM

If there's no gang provided anymore that lets you put on the tag to use the gun....

Why would you un-taglock it instead of just deleting it? Way to **** it up.

natchez416 10-05-2008 11:11 PM

Why not just lower the stats of the gun so it's not worth more than people payed for it.
Seems like the simplest solution.

Anyways I don't see it as that much of a problem since its not introducing new money into the economy, It's just redistributing money from player to player.

DarkRenji 10-05-2008 11:28 PM

Untag lock ravson5's then PPA is going no where :o

DustyPorViva 10-05-2008 11:41 PM

Remove them with no reimbursement and just let people whine ;)

Shotoo2 10-06-2008 03:28 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DustyPorViva (Post 1429402)
Remove them with no reimbursement and just let people whine ;)

that's the best idea honestly, from an economic standpoint

run41 10-06-2008 07:51 PM

Aldaris just tells this becouse he sold his PPSH41 10 minutes ago.
+ it shoulkd stay as it is right now.

Aldaris 10-06-2008 09:49 PM

I never owned a PPSH.

I tell this because I honestly don't feel like watching people earn 500k+ for doing absolutely nothing, to be honest.

They took the risk of buying a PPSH, so why should they gain that much of a profit? If we gave them nothing, or 50k, they took the risk, so that's their problem. It comes from a more fair perspective.


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