Scamming.
 

Needs to made complety legal, or complety illegal.

Its not fair that some people who get scammed, can jump through hoops and get the trade reversed because the have friends/contacts that are staff z.z

Some people get scammed for mil's and nothing gets done because there not suckin up to staff members or however it goes x.x


pretty much I don't think its fair people are immune to this while other are not.


Any thoughts?

*Readys flame shield*

The people immune usually have a degree of intelligence. Beyond the control of era.

No point Renji.. The people who get scammed are just dumb? We have a Dropconfirm and Itemtrade.. So what the problem?

it's completely legal.

care to explain what players are being specially treated? scams are only reversed under certain circumstances.

Didn't Kimmy get scammed and have her items returned?

Yes, Of course.. Why wouldnt she get something? -.-

Because it's that's person fault for being scammed? "No point Renji.. The people who get scammed are just dumb? We have a Dropconfirm and Itemtrade.. So what the problem?" Why to be a ***** Name.

Allright..
One: If u would know the situation you could talk about the thing. Kimmy gets everything she wants from TSA, So dont talk about it when u dont know what it is about.

It's because Kimmy is a "chick."

Shut up...god.
What ever happened to the unofficial forums : (

Hey, i'm just saying what you said buddy.

Oh, and Natchez. Zone is sorry for making him.

I don't see any way you could be scammed if you do it correctly.

Item trade now shows you the name of the items.

You should never have to drop items to trade.

Kimmy is a staff member. It has nothing to do with her being TSA's girlfriend or being a chick. You can't scam admins, don't be dumb.

Although I do agree that admins should not use their power to go around and lend people items because they can get away with it. You guys expect staff to help you and develop the server that you play, but then you treat them like garbage by talking **** about them, scamming them, etc. It makes no sense.

Wait. If an admin gets scammed they get their stuff back?

If they get scammed in the first place they shouldn't even be staff.

But if a player gets scammed, Their ****ed? Wow. That's real fair.

welcome to life?

Yet your staff dot not get screwed?

Staff defending they our own interests, does this surprise me? Not all, this is so typical for a game that you develop for free. I mean, what's the point? If you don't have any advantage at all, why be staff? I don't blame you guys, but you can't lie you guys stay as staff because of the power and status. It's not like you guys really want to help the server. If the graal administration rewarded servers admins based on the server popularity I'm pretty sure this would motivate staff to actually work on the server, thus keeping their players for more time, thus earning more money from subscriptions.

Yet, Staff gets speical treatment?

lol

Seriously. The official Era forums is so G rated.

Staff are immune to scams and bullets.

Well ill use Cyclones shipka getting scammed for this example,

Why did he get it back? Because he is buds with katbot.

He also didnt know where Anfo got it from, although he said he saw the scam :o

this is a pm from katbot when the whole thing was going on :o
"Opposite (Thu Sep 25 23:35:52 2008):

shipka owns, dont get it yet im gonna check where he go it"

Even though the rules say

"David and I decided that no longer will that be allowed."
"On top of that, scamming is LEGAL. So if you lend an item out and it gets scammed, there's nothing we can do about it. Keep your items to yourself. It's not that hard. Thanks :)"



Side note when I told katbot what the news said he replied with

"Opposite (Sun Sep 28 00:08:07 2008):

I don't read the news."



Sooo how is this fair?

Too bad message histories can't be used as evidence anymore.

staff and other GPs are not allowed to guarantee a lend trade being reversed. for some odd reason, Katbot decided not to follow this rule (and maybe he had no idea about it, which he should of) I made an exception about it that time because Katbot told him he would get his item back. Katbot will be held responsible for his actions if he lets it happen again.

it was an honest mistake, just give it up.

but how do you know he really guaranted it?
thats the problem, he was just doing it for his friend -possible-?

The pm he sent me when I said there was a "noob" running around with a shipka because it looked odd, made it didnt even look like he knew cyclone lent it out x.x
Also the fact that the guy was trying to sell it for about 3-4 hours stright

It doesnt bother me really because I dis-like scammers but I also dont like how people can jump trhough hoops to get stuff revesed while other cant

I just have to take his word for it, he's a GP
If I catch him lying to me he'll be fired.

Katbot is not a good staff member in my opinion. I asked him if hacking was allowed, and he jailed me for harassing him :cool:

Yeah he cused me out then said " Now lets stop pming " then I said " Ok then you stop pming me ****in *** " , Mind you he called me the same if not worse. and I spent 30 mins he jail for " Ingnoring a staff's reasonable request"

well because admins are immune to scamming it should be completely illegal since they're also immune to spawning and giving guns to their buddies

nobody gives out spawned items. people love to assume this though.

I just got jailed by litter(graal) for scamming a free hit on a player when a bounty hunter decided to do it outside the npc system. Thought it was legal? litter warped me to her, said i had 2 mins to get 1k (more then the hit was worth) otherwise litter will take it from me and ill be jailed. Abuse?

Totally wrong, but ok o_O

LOL no it isnt. Dont make me break out the screen shots!

go for it o_o
I can provide chat logs too

Those chat logs wont help you lol.

So if im totally wrong, interpret what really happened?

And why did Kimmy decide to unjail me if I was wrong?

Besides all i did was scam a scammer, venom_fish is on the scammers list.

Oh really- I didn't know you were unjailed. Kimmy must have used an alternative method, I'll be sure to bring this up with her.

I'm waiting for the screenshots.

Smooth, You wont win it with lieng..

I have screen shots of you wall hacking too!

lol, next he's going to ask for staff blocks and warping ability

Well, why the **** should staff members be able to walk on walls, and not the players? Or have the ability to spawn items, for that matter?

Ok i have slept on it and no longer care since its not going to get me anyway but i would like to hear your version.


please share with the world.