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Sinkler 08-22-2008 09:40 PM

PPA's Untaglocked Weapon
 
Hello,

I find it a little unfair that PPA can use their weapons off tag. They can lame with Ravon 5 explosive bullets off tag, use SG17 which is super lame and and dual ap7s. What can you do to stop this?
I would advise make it so ONLY they can use it ON PPA tag. Or you can just make them public so everyone is happy.

Frankie 08-22-2008 10:00 PM

It was like that, then they started to complain about gangs being able to use gang weapons off tag, and that it wasn't fair. Which was a pretty good point.

xXziroXx 08-22-2008 10:02 PM

Wouldn't it be most fair to have gang AND business (or whatever it's called, I don't play Era) weapons tag locked?

Crono 08-22-2008 10:12 PM

What happened to businesses no longer having their own weapons?

[email protected] 08-22-2008 10:43 PM

personally, any gun being taglocked is stupid.

i'd recommend having to pay a certain amount each week [players] to use the gang or business gun. Upon tagging up, you're given the weapon for #### time [a week irl or something?] untill you re-upgrade it.

Frankie 08-22-2008 11:08 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Crono (Post 1416611)
What happened to businesses no longer having their own weapons?

I don't know.
It was Dem's idea to feed PPA a bunch of guns, and when PPA started getting **** BHer complained and also got more stuff.

cbk1994 08-22-2008 11:10 PM

Why are there gang guns anyway? They should be public, not private. First, they stop working when you get kicked out or leave the gang, and they can be hard to sell. Second, people will join gangs based on the weapons, not the gang.

Shadow5596321 08-22-2008 11:54 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by cbk1994 (Post 1416636)
Why are there gang guns anyway? They should be public, not private. First, they stop working when you get kicked out or leave the gang, and they can be hard to sell. Second, people will join gangs based on the weapons, not the gang.

Without those guns, Theres really no reason to join a gang.

Crono 08-23-2008 12:07 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by cbk1994 (Post 1416636)
Why are there gang guns anyway?

Gang guns are great.

Quote:

They should be public, not private.
No.

Quote:

Second, people will join gangs based on the weapons, not the gang.
So? If the gang is smart, like Morano Family was in 2006, then you don't have this problem. Best gang in Era's history, simply because it wasn't packed full of retarded "gangstas" when Sean (or whoever Misha's era-bf was) lead it.

cbk1994 08-23-2008 12:49 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Shadow5596321 (Post 1416665)
Without those guns, Theres really no reason to join a gang.

I certainly didn't join a gang to get the gun ... I joined because I enjoy raiding, gang events, etc.

kia345 08-23-2008 01:00 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by cbk1994 (Post 1416691)
I certainly didn't join a gang to get the gun ... I joined because I enjoy raiding, gang events, etc.

You don't get the gun for joining though, there's still the process of building and buying it.

cbk1994 08-23-2008 01:49 AM

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Originally Posted by kia345 (Post 1416697)
You don't get the gun for joining though, there's still the process of building and buying it.

I know; but a lot of people still choose a gang based on the gang gun.

Frankie 08-23-2008 02:22 AM

the main 3 gangs, BB, BH, and LC have been passed down to many different leaders since the last reset, it gave a lot of chances to leak the guns. each time a new leader was put into place, the guns were not reset. they stayed out in the economy. it's been a while now to the point where they are literally just lying around in people's inventories/storages. they sell them, and some kid will be like "cool I got an sg552, let's join LC" so yeah, Chris is right.

when new gangs release, sometimes the leader is smart and only gives the gun out to high ranking members. but even that's shown to fall apart because they wind up getting mad at someone, leave the gang and sell it to some lowbie in the gang. then it circulates.

Sinkler 08-23-2008 05:52 AM

But think of it this way,

If everyone were able to purchase a gun, then everyone would be satisfied. If Gang leaders put more RP aspects into their gang, then why shouldn't people join?

Crow 08-23-2008 12:17 PM

The whole gang gun bimbo-limbo when the new gang system replaces the current one...err, Frankie, help me out here, can I tell the others what will happen to gang guns?

Frankie 08-23-2008 03:04 PM

yeah. I don't even remember what's supposed to go on with the new gang system.

Crow 08-23-2008 04:38 PM

Well, for gang weapons it was planned to have something like gun racks in the base where people with the "gun rack right" can take out a gang gun if one is available. The rack holds 5 or whatever weapons in total. You can take one out for free, but you cannot drop or trade them, and when you log off, it goes back into the rack.

Sinkler 08-23-2008 08:39 PM

That could work, but then people will get upset for the gang guns they bought now. Unless this is after reset?

Sinkler 08-23-2008 08:45 PM

madara (Party Hyde) (Sat Aug 23 13:45:59 2008):
Mass message:
why is ppa running around shooting ppl? they not even a ****ing clan, gang or party, so what the hell??


¤DVD¤ (Party Hyde) (Sat Aug 23 13:42:04 2008):
Mass message:
For some reason PPA is trying to make it self a Gang I mean wtf they made the rule that they cant PK with tag on SO why are they brecking it?????? useing those wepons for the wrong reasons aint right

The guns are clearly being abused.

Crow 08-23-2008 08:49 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Sinkler (Post 1416833)
That could work, but then people will get upset for the gang guns they bought now. Unless this is after reset?

Either that or a refund.

Sinkler 08-24-2008 01:59 AM

I noticed that people use PPA weapons on like LMS or PK Area.
Is that fair? Same with gang guns.

kia345 08-24-2008 02:12 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Sinkler (Post 1416905)
I noticed that people use PPA weapons on like LMS or PK Area.
Is that fair?

No.


I hardly play Era and I can tell that sounds like some BS rule.

Sinkler 08-24-2008 04:26 AM

PPA Promotes the "We won't fight unless you fight us first" rule, but use it in events.

cbk1994 08-24-2008 05:20 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Sinkler (Post 1416923)
PPA Promotes the "We won't fight unless you fight us first" rule, but use it in events.

They don't follow that rule at all, then.

Sinkler 08-24-2008 09:28 AM

Also to be true to this, you need a lot of skill to kill with the PPA guns. topic closed please.


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