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MagikMasterMind 07-24-2008 03:52 PM

Just an idea: Relogging
 
I just came up with this idea... It seems interesting to me, but I don't know if you guys are going to like it.

Since relogging caused alot of trouble on Zone, I tough that, maybe on certain maps, if you relog, it cost you a death, including the lost of your bounty and spar rate.

This idea came up when I looked at bounty's statistic board. I don't beleive these top players didn't relog or Idle when only a few players where on the map.

SITUATION: You spar *unknown* and he has 2400 spar rate, 321 bounty. And you know he dosen't deserve that rate since you own him, and can't get over 2200 spar rate. You flawl him to 21 hp then he relogs. This is really cheap since he keeped his rate when he dosn't deserve it and alot of players are doing this.

Since this is Zone Rules, we need to fix a system on this.

So what you think about it?

darksidekiller 07-24-2008 04:14 PM

Personnaly, I don't really like your idea! It's true that there is a problem of relogging. I don't think you should loose bounty and spar rate! If you want to relogg only to reset your stats, you're going to loose some! In another way, I like the idea that it cost you a death! When you relogg, most of the time people do it to save themselfs from a death!

Xterminator 07-24-2008 04:16 PM

if they re-log, just leave them in-game..besides Events.

RosesLove 07-24-2008 04:20 PM

I'm not a fan of the idea that you'll lose rate if you reconnect. I don't play zone to know if it's a big problem or what, but how about those people who have bad connections?

It's unfortunate for those who get cheated out of rate, but isn't that what staff are for?
The people who do that will eventually build up a reputation for it anyway, just don't spar them.. :)

darksidekiller 07-24-2008 04:21 PM

Yea, nice one RosesLove! =P

pooper200000 07-24-2008 06:23 PM

What if I log out and log back in 5 minutes later? Will I still lose my bounty?

luffy620 07-25-2008 04:59 AM

this idea is too conflicted.

SITUATION: Say *unknown* is trying really hard to get 2400 spar rating, he gets to 2300's. A player walks into the spar room, and at the very same time, he is called away from the computer by his mother to do a chore, and has to log immediately. He logs out to save his spar rate, and comes back an hour later to resume his quest for fame and glory.

Are you saying just because some people have found a way to get around the system, we should ruin it for the honest man who worked hard for that spar rating or bounty? Sure not everyone of the scoreboards have used fair methods to get there, but they got up there, and too spend that much time and effort to even get there unfairly, is a feat worthy of that spot.

Don't spend your time complaining about the cheater, but work hard to one up him using your own skill and honest play.

MagikMasterMind 07-25-2008 05:46 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by pooper200000 (Post 1407822)
What if I log out and log back in 5 minutes later? Will I still lose my bounty?

This shall be only on certain maps. The reason I made this idea, was because I know some people on spar board that shouldn't be there, since they just relog while they get owned <.<. I won't say any names.

Luffy:
Quote:

Don't spend your time complaining about the cheater, but work hard to one up him using your own skill and honest play.
I use my skills to own them but don't get any EXP and Spar rate cause they relog.

Crono 07-25-2008 05:48 PM

Solution: Make exiting spars easier (i.e whenever theres NOT a spar going on let the ****ing player leave already, that thing annoys me to death), and keep a log file of whenever someone re-logs during a spar.

First offense should be a warning, second offense should be their rate is dropped by a certain amount and their bounty is reset, and third offense their rate/bounty is reset and they are given a jail/ban warning. If they continue to keep re-logging they should be jailed/banned (I dont know if Zone has a jail nowadays) for a short period of time.

MagikMasterMind 07-25-2008 05:53 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Crono (Post 1408251)
Solution: Make exiting spars easier (i.e whenever theres NOT a spar going on let the ****ing player leave already, that thing annoys me to death), and keep a log file of whenever someone re-logs during a spar.

First offense should be a warning, second offense should be their rate is dropped by a certain amount and their bounty is reset, and third offense their rate/bounty is reset and they are given a jail/ban warning. If they continue to keep re-logging they should be jailed/banned (I dont know if Zone has a jail nowadays) for a short period of time.



:pluffy: I love that idea. It's so true that the exiting spar system is annoying. I love the way Zodiac made their spar rooms.

Crono 07-25-2008 05:54 PM

I love the way UN made their spar room, since every server became "inspired" by it.

Donark 07-26-2008 02:38 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Crono (Post 1408251)
(I dont know if Zone has a jail nowadays)

They lock people. (You can still walk around in dropship but can't enter any battle fields, events or spar).

seanthien 07-26-2008 08:18 AM

Zone has a ''jail'', Kds sent me there today. Cough you can unstick me cough.Mhm. Anyhow, if they relog just get the video of it. I got a video of poizike relogging.

Donark 07-26-2008 01:55 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by seanthien (Post 1408577)
Zone has a ''jail'', Kds sent me there today. Cough you can unstick me cough.Mhm. Anyhow, if they relog just get the video of it. I got a video of poizike relogging.

Ya but you can also talk and do unstick me. x.x

seanthien 07-26-2008 09:34 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by seanthien (Post 1408577)
Zone has a ''jail'', Kds sent me there today. Cough you can unstick me cough.Mhm. Anyhow, if they relog just get the video of it. I got a video of poizike relogging.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Donark (Post 1408603)
Ya but you can also talk and do unstick me. x.x

Ahem.

RevolutionJS 07-27-2008 10:37 PM

If players do that its the mission off staffs to stop it .
And well done if they will not get detected and Maybe make polices that have only lock/unstick rights but no ET rights.

Soala 07-27-2008 10:57 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Crono (Post 1408256)
I love the way UN made their spar room, since every server became "inspired" by it.

AGREE'D x_x !

XdNemesisXd 08-01-2008 04:42 AM

:)
 
Umm ya and Zone should sciprt so you can't block doors with Boxes and make it when you first go into spar you have like 2 seconds before you can get hit t stop lamming.

[email protected] 08-01-2008 06:48 AM

I just think when you relog it takes like 5-10 seconds so when you relog people can kill you.

Knightmare1 08-01-2008 09:39 AM

when i first read that post, it reminded me of that one noob dude who flawed me 3 times.. laggy dude... he had like 2327 spar rating.. he was a GUEST. check my sig. and i have an idea, when relogging, put a timer on it. like wait 5 seconds then relog. 5 seconds is plenty of time to kill that annoying and idled opponent.


EDIT***

I didnt read the above post, sorry Zeru.

Huwajux 08-01-2008 01:16 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Knightmare1 (Post 1410465)
when i first read that post, it reminded me of that one noob dude who flawed me 3 times.. laggy dude... he had like 2327 spar rating.. he was a GUEST. check my sig.

You do realise he was most probably a gold account player who just went on a guest account for some fun?

...it could have been Wind_Master. He always does that stuff to look 'cool'.

Crow 08-01-2008 01:41 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Huwajux (Post 1410483)
You do realise he was most probably a gold account player who just went on a guest account for some fun?

...it could have been Wind_Master. He always does that stuff to look 'cool'.

I did that too pretty often, but not to look cool, I just wanted to get some challenge and not get hugged by everybody who even only heard of me before >.<

Topic: I think the idea would work if it would only reset the bounty and add a death if the time between logging out and logging back in is smaller than or equal to 20 (read: <= 20) seconds. Or something similar. So it actually only does that when you actually relog, and not when you have to go offline.

Soala 08-01-2008 02:27 PM

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Shadow5596321 08-01-2008 06:40 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Huwajux (Post 1410483)
...it could have been Wind_Master. He always does that stuff to look 'cool'.

:O, I thought your boyfriend quit after he lost that 8k bounty to a "hack". When Az lamed him.

Knightmare1 08-01-2008 09:01 PM

When i got that noob down to 17 HP, he like did "NOOB LAG ATTACK!" and warped out of the spar room without relogging. he just walked out of the door.

hilary1612 08-01-2008 10:51 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Knightmare1 (Post 1410573)
When i got that noob down to 17 HP, he like did "NOOB LAG ATTACK!" and warped out of the spar room without relogging. he just walked out of the door.

You can walk out after being in spar with someone after a time, which is pretty retarded since I'm in the middle of sparring and I touch the door and leave the spar.

seanthien 08-01-2008 11:32 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by alexandralove (Post 1410495)

That's nothing..o.o.

Huwajux 08-02-2008 12:52 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Shadow5596321 (Post 1410529)
:O, I thought your boyfriend quit after he lost that 8k bounty to a "hack". When Az lamed him.

He was anything but my boyfriend. :\

seanthien 08-02-2008 09:31 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Shadow5596321 (Post 1410529)
:O, I thought your boyfriend quit after he lost that 8k bounty to a "hack". When Az lamed him.

Huwa had a hot girlfriend, remeber? Stupid! D:

Knight 08-05-2008 12:13 PM

It sounds like a good idea to me! You shouldn't be in that area if you don't want to risk your Bounty or Rate, faulty connection or not.

xAzerothx 08-05-2008 06:00 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Shadow5596321 (Post 1410529)
:O, I thought your boyfriend quit after he lost that 8k bounty to a "hack". When Az lamed him.

Its cute you think I lamed him, ask Jin how it went down.

http://i34.tinypic.com/21kz3vo.png

Knightmare1 08-06-2008 03:07 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by xAzerothx (Post 1411566)
Its cute you think I lamed him, ask Jin how it went down.

http://i34.tinypic.com/21kz3vo.png

:megaeek: wow. you should have asked to spar. INSTANT 7k SPAR RATE FTW!!

And the geust guy, i saw him on CTF.as it turns out, this guy is OMEGA nerd. i was talking to him, and he said he had like 20 accounts. i asked to see one of them, on one he has about 115 kills and 2 deaths.


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