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xXziroXx 06-23-2008 12:37 AM
Forum/Graal smilies?
 
Are we allowed to use the smilies on Graal related forums/websites? For example, the forums for Era, Zodiac, Project Mythic and so fourth.

xXziroXx 06-26-2008 01:57 PM
Yeah, like, Stefan or Unixmad are probably the only ones capable of answering my question - so please?

Crono 06-26-2008 02:35 PM
You could ask Goboom, the creator. He made a lot more too.

http://forums.graalonline.com/forums...ad.php?t=68028

xXziroXx 06-26-2008 09:13 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Crono (Post 1399412)
You could ask Goboom, the creator. He made a lot more too.
Yeah, I know, he's been MIA for ages though.

xXziroXx 08-16-2008 07:42 PM
It would still be kinda cool to get an answer from one of you, Stefan or Unixmad.

Cow2001 08-16-2008 07:45 PM
I'm not sure even they may decide since they're not the copyright holders.
you should ask goboom, check out his contact details here

xXziroXx 08-16-2008 08:06 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Cow2001 (Post 1414948)
I'm not sure even they may decide since they're not the copyright holders.
you should ask goboom, check out his contact details here
I doubt Goboom invested in a copyright for them. And I've been trying to contact Goboom for a while without success, thus making Stefan/Unixmad the only ones eligible to answer my question.

DrakilorP2P 08-16-2008 08:17 PM
How about just using them without asking? Even if it doesn't fall under fair use, it's unlikely that he'll sue due to the costs involved.

Cow2001 08-16-2008 08:37 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by xXziroXx (Post 1414953)
I doubt Goboom invested in a copyright for them. And I've been trying to contact Goboom for a while without success, thus making Stefan/Unixmad the only ones eligible to answer my question.
it's copyrighted to him because he created it, no investment is needed.

even if they say yes he could theoretically sue

xXziroXx 08-16-2008 08:43 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Cow2001 (Post 1414964)
it's copyrighted to him because he created it, no investment is needed.

even if they say yes he could theoretically sue
Only in countries where the Berne Convention standards apply.

Oinkness 08-16-2008 09:04 PM
I don't think you can actually copyright a smilie without first paying royalties to the original creator... it's probably under fair use to say the least.

Cow2001 08-16-2008 11:48 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by xXziroXx (Post 1414966)
Only in countries where the Berne Convention standards apply.
http://img369.imageshack.us/img369/1...atoriesnk6.jpg

anyway it's not under the graal management's jurisdiction!

Loriel 08-17-2008 12:23 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Cow2001 (Post 1414998)
anyway it's not under the graal management's jurisdiction!
Graal content usually requires a transfer of copyright to Graal. If that applies to the smilies too, it is.

Cow2001 08-17-2008 01:02 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Loriel (Post 1415090)
Graal content usually requires a transfer of copyright to Graal. If that applies to the smilies too, it is.
it's not really Graal content tho, and anyway I'm not sure the transfer of copyrights is even legit without an accepted agreement.

xXziroXx 08-17-2008 03:40 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Cow2001 (Post 1415094)
without an accepted agreement.
You accept it when you agree to Graal's Terms of Agreement upon creating an account.

Cow2001 08-17-2008 04:14 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by xXziroXx (Post 1415105)
You accept it when you agree to Graal's Terms of Agreement upon creating an account.
go ahead and show me then, I didn't manage to find it there

xXziroXx 08-17-2008 04:27 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Cow2001 (Post 1415111)
go ahead and show me then, I didn't manage to find it there
You're right, it's not there, checked both the User Agreement and Rules of Conduct without finding the slightest trace.

Goboom 08-17-2008 04:58 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by xXziroXx (Post 1414953)
...And I've been trying to contact Goboom for a while without success, thus making Stefan/Unixmad the only ones eligible to answer my question.
No you haven't...:oo:

xXziroXx 08-17-2008 05:47 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Goboom (Post 1415119)
No you haven't...:oo:
I haven't seen you on AIM a single time :confused:

Crono 08-17-2008 05:54 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by xXziroXx (Post 1415142)
I haven't seen you on AIM a single time :confused:
I see him on 24/7.

xXziroXx 08-17-2008 06:03 PM
Turns out I didn't have him on AIM, added him now though -.-


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