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ImmortalHuman 06-06-2008 02:27 AM

Petition to Revive GK
 
We, the GK community, feel that Tig deserves a chance to manage the server due to the ammount of caring and effort he has put in to trying to help GK for years. Recently there hasn't been much completed work, but we also feel that it's because of the fact that there is no body around to motivate each other. If you look at how dead GK is, there is absolutely nothing to loose in doing this.



PoJo no need to flame.

Please stay on topic.

Ziro_of_the_Turks 06-06-2008 02:29 AM

"Potition"
 
Today on AOTS Epic Failure.

kia345 06-06-2008 02:29 AM

I'd love to vote.


But first tell me, what's a potition?

Also Satain, the saving of Gk would most likely outlaw USD'ing, so where do you stand?

cbk1994 06-06-2008 02:34 AM

I'm not going to vote; it's public.

Stephen 06-06-2008 02:37 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by cbk1994 (Post 1394908)
I'm not going to vote; it's public.

It's okay - our votes are meaningless anyways. >_<

Crono 06-06-2008 02:41 AM

My answer to the poll topic:

y not

kia345 06-06-2008 02:45 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ImmortalHuman (Post 1394904)
I meant petition, and if saving gk means changing the rules then I will listen (keep harasing me PoJo and you might just lose access to gk)

I've never harassed you, I'm pointing out that you continuously break rules.

Sure, I pm you every day I log on Gk. Do you know why? To ask if you're idling for 72 hours straight again, which you are doing. Perhaps if you quit giving me reason to bring you up, you wouldn't have to call this "harassment"

Stephen 06-06-2008 02:50 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by kia345 (Post 1394912)
I've never harassed you, I'm pointing out that you continuously break rules.

Sure, I pm you every day I log on Gk. Do you know why? To ask if you're idling for 72 hours straight again, which you are doing. Perhaps if you quit giving me reason to bring you up, you wouldn't have to call this "harassment"

Big brother, big brother, send Satain over. Did he commit facecrime?

ReBorn_Spirit 06-06-2008 12:49 PM

It's just a known fact allready that many people are against the current management of GK. This will only show others that as well. Though I do not entirely agree with Tig being Manager or the only person to do things to GK. I feel that something else needs to be done anyways before there really is nothing to return to.

Spiker0 06-06-2008 01:29 PM

I feel Tig should become manager, because there really isnt anybody else that has the capabilities he has. He has worked with Graal for a LONG time, and knows whats up and how to do stuff. Yes he can be an ass sometimes, but the stuff he says when he is being an ass are all true...

DustyPorViva 06-06-2008 02:41 PM

I find it funny you use the term revival as a synonym for Tig. I have no idea of the skills of Tig or even the situation on GK... but if you really want to put a poll up for management, maybe you should be a little more subtle about your bias.

There is no guarantee that Tig will revive GK, so you shouldn't post one thing in the title(petition to revive GK), then post a completely different matter in the actual thread(Tig for manager).

Ziro_of_the_Turks 06-06-2008 02:57 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DustyPorViva (Post 1394972)
There is no guarantee that Tig will revive GK, so you shouldn't post one thing in the title(petition to revive GK), then post a completely different matter in the actual thread(Tig for manager).

Just for structural purposes, it makes sense;
Petition to Revive GK: Tig

But in reality, and to win the on-going battle, it shouldn't be focused on Tig even if he is the best candidate for GK-management. If we're saying "Hire Tig for manager", and the administration doesn't want him, they'll just say "Tig won't be admin because (whatever reason they dont like him)". But if we say "we need new management", they can't give an argument as easily. The last "decent" argument they had was Bjorn graduating or something. After that, all they can do is continue to ignore our "Save GK!" discussions. Just don't give them an argument to win, or Sam will just close the thread like last time saying "Tig will not be admin yet".

grawlgamer 06-06-2008 04:17 PM

You know online petitions are the most fail ever, they never work.

Ravenblade1979 06-06-2008 04:31 PM

Well sorry to pipe up but for someone who cares about GK a lot tigs pretty no go on kingdoms Debug. The only day i really seen him on was yesterday(and that was on GK).

As for you Satain. Don't threaten to have someone banned from the server for you may find that its you who gets that treatment if the wrong manager is brought in.

By wrong manager..i mean one that you didn't want. Frankly its his right to ask a question...all you have to do is choose to ignore it or not and apparently you don't want to. Everytime I login I see you idling in your house on forest. or your paused on ur other account like yesterday.

I don't know if Pojo is doing it to bug you or what but you could just ignore it and continue on idling in your house on forest.

kia345 06-06-2008 04:40 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ravenblade1979 (Post 1394999)
Well sorry to pipe up but for someone who cares about GK a lot tigs pretty no go on kingdoms Debug. The only day i really seen him on was yesterday(and that was on GK).

What can he do on debug? When was the last time Bjorn has said "I'm at your beck and call!" and actually shown up to send things to the main server? I know I've asked him several times about the new town on Zormite, just to look at it, and he's never replied, I can only imagine his responses to Tig. Why should Tig be wasting time on debug if the current management won't allow him to actually do anything?

ImmortalHuman 06-06-2008 05:44 PM

Sam's vote doesn't count.

Crimson2005 06-06-2008 05:52 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ImmortalHuman (Post 1395018)
Sam's vote doesn't count.

*****

lordbosh 06-06-2008 06:09 PM

Sure, why not.

But, he should be monitored and be placed under a probationary management position for a few months. This would mean that he and whatever team he has needs to keep active, and self motivated as well as be productive during that time.

He'd kinda be a trial manager for a few months, and then pending a final review he would be made the permanent manager. Thats how most companies do things now adays.

Darklux 06-06-2008 06:13 PM

I don't think this poll will have any effect, good luck anyways.

Sam 06-06-2008 06:59 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ImmortalHuman (Post 1395018)
Sam's vote doesn't count.

Okay. Deleted. ;)

Tigairius 06-06-2008 07:18 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ravenblade1979 (Post 1394999)
Well sorry to pipe up but for someone who cares about GK a lot tigs pretty no go on kingdoms Debug. The only day i really seen him on was yesterday(and that was on GK).

Who says just because you don't see me on debug means I'm never on or I don't care about GK? The only day I've really seen you on was yesterday, but I can bet you've been on Zone. My point being: Just because a pet runs away doesn't mean you stop missing it. It's not my fault that your time conflicts with my time, but just because you haven't seen me, doesn't mean I'm not there. I don't know about this thread, but everyone who voted "no" are people I would have picked out of the crowd (except PoJo), but each time this poll is held more and more people are voting yes. I don't know why anyone would just vote "No," except Sam, which is understandable. I told myself, "I'm not even going to reply to this thread," but after you started slapping your unbacked, warped views on my activity I decided to make this quick response. As for cbk1994 voting "no," you seemed pretty determined to make a point that GK "needed" me in my PWA application, which makes me wonder... do you really care about bettering GK or do you care about holding me back from doing greater things? The fact that each of these "revive GK" threads get stupendous amounts of replies shows me that the GK community is still very much so alive, and is still able to be rescued.

cbk1994 06-06-2008 07:30 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Tigairius (Post 1395048)
As for cbk1994 voting "no," you seemed pretty determined to make a point that GK "needed" me in my PWA application, which makes me wonder..

I originally said I would not vote because I didn't really want it public.

I had also posted later, which I deleted for some reason, that I decided to vote that GK needed new management, but that I didn't really want to say whether or not I though you would make a good manager.

It is quite obvious that GK needs new management; and yes, GK does need you very much as a scripter. As to whether or not I think you would make a good manager, I'd rather keep private unless you'd rather I PM you it?

Tigairius 06-06-2008 07:32 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by cbk1994 (Post 1395051)
you'd rather I PM you it?

I can respect your right to privacy. It's not like this thread will even effect anything. I guess people just aren't ready to give up hope yet.

cbk1994 06-06-2008 07:33 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Tigairius (Post 1395052)
It's not like this thread will even effect anything.

Agreed :cry:

Vimerge 06-06-2008 07:39 PM

I agree with lordbosh's idea

kia345 06-06-2008 08:02 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Tigairius (Post 1395048)
(except PoJo)

Voted against you because I see Gk as a lost cause that I don't want you to have to waste your time with. You'd be great for Gk, Gk isn't good enough for you.

Elizabeth 06-06-2008 08:34 PM

i vote tig & stephen for gk management
even though theres no stephen there, i voted for tig.
but i think that theyd work better and be able to revive gk faster if there was two of them

ReBorn_Spirit 06-14-2008 01:42 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ImmortalHuman (Post 1395018)
Sam's vote doesn't count.

I think it does.. or more so did.. as he is a forums mod, he has a little more say in what can be done.

Darklux 06-14-2008 01:50 PM

Does "after everything he's done" include him scamming, and working together with jagen to produce illegal items (and probaply sell them)? I can't support tig and his background.
No, I didn't support björns work in the end, either, but afaik björn is already gone and stefan uploading updates to GK now, so where is the problem with that.

Hatred89 06-14-2008 02:25 PM

Alright maybe I missed something but why did the poll close? I mean if its a petition shouldn't it constantly be open to give more time for the number of voters?
Also is this a petition or a vote?

Sam 06-14-2008 04:04 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Hatred89 (Post 1397021)
Alright maybe I missed something but why did the poll close? I mean if its a petition shouldn't it constantly be open to give more time for the number of voters?
Also is this a petition or a vote?

The thread starter has set that the poll get close after 7 days. I've reopened it, so you can still vote.

RealJuggernaut 07-03-2008 11:14 PM

even i voted yes. whats up with that

cyan3 07-04-2008 01:23 AM

I have no comment on the subject because I know Tig would make a great manager for GK but Bjorn is already a great manager and I don't see why Bjorn should be replaced if he's doing a good job. Although Bjorn is very busy and It would be good to at least of an assistant manager to help.

kia345 07-04-2008 01:49 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by cyan3 (Post 1400742)
Although Bjorn is very busy

That's grounds for having a replacement. If he's manager, it's his job to be here, not brush Gk aside because he has other business.

ReBorn_Spirit 07-04-2008 01:50 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by cyan3 (Post 1400742)
I have no comment on the subject because I know Tig would make a great manager for GK but Bjorn is already a great manager and I don't see why Bjorn should be replaced if he's doing a good job. Although Bjorn is very busy and It would be good to at least of an assistant manager to help.

Bjorn may be quitting GK development, from what he tells me he is. Wether or not he changes his mind is another story. Maybe we should consider this thread now anyways.

sango_ku 07-04-2008 02:37 AM

GK is hard for management. You don't get Bjorn place for see it. HE is really busy but its true GK need more staff but bjorn want keep powerfull ?


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