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Rescate 01-26-2008 04:02 AM

Prejudice
 
The title says it all why isnt this in the graal policy

I found this out by getting in to a argument with someone and asking a friend appearntly he can be totally prejudice against jew's and ***'s as long as he wants What do you all think of this should it be added in policy or should people be allowed to express there beliefs ?

I want to here what you think of this please refrain from flaming or using unnecessary remarks

Also:

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cbk1994 01-26-2008 04:20 AM

Would vote if this was a private poll.

In any case, not exactly sure what you're asking. Racism clearly isn't allowed. Prejudice is prejudice. It's life. It's still unclear to me what you want stopped. Prejudice on the forums? Staff member prejudice? Players being racist etc?

Also, why is this posted in the Zone forum?

Rescate 01-26-2008 04:22 AM

Oh because admins tend to watch zone forums like hawks and this would catch there eyes

But i do not believe someone should be able to go on zone and say he hates ***s and they disgust him it would be plain wrong your insulting the other person saying he is like dirt when they are no diffrent from us or just for being jewish or tons of other reasons and sry this was my first time making a poll

cbk1994 01-26-2008 04:26 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Rescate (Post 1371943)
Oh because admins tend to watch zone forums like hawks and this would catch there eyes

But i do not believe someone should be able to go on zone and say he hates ***s and they disgust him it would be plain wrong your insulting the other person saying he is like dirt when they are no diffrent from us or just for being jewish or tons of other reasons and sry this was my first time making a poll

You have a good point, and I would tend to agree with you, but nothing will happen. Sorry to tell you :(

Also, I did vote to make it in the policy, but still; nothing would change if it was added.

Bell 01-26-2008 04:28 AM

I'm not sure why you're polling, asking this to be added when its already there unless you don't see prejudice and racism as the same thing. If thats whats happening on Zone or anyplace else its still against the Rules of Conduct.

xAzerothx 01-26-2008 04:40 AM

Sorry, your post was too long and I was too lazy to read it all. I think people who are racist are just stupid though.

Rescate 01-26-2008 04:50 AM

I just read through the code of conducts and sry to tell you but its not being racist ...

Jew is not a race
*** is not a race
Its being prejudice

Another abuse of chat and forum privileges is when players use abusive language (cursing or threatening language), racial attacks or comments, or sexually explicit comments, either general or specific, when communicating to individual players, in the content of mass messages via the GraalOnline chat system, or via the discussion boards.


Nothing in there that states being prejudice sry but they need to add it read it carefully X.x I got opinions from other people to just to check so yeh sry code of conduct has its flaws

xAzerothx 01-26-2008 04:53 AM

If you get rid of the swearing and the sexual comments there won't be anything fun to do on Zone.

Switch 01-26-2008 05:02 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Rescate (Post 1371943)
But i do not believe someone should be able to go on zone and say he hates ***s and they disgust him

acct please

Rescate 01-26-2008 05:18 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Switch (Post 1371954)
acct please

No i was in a arguement wtih him on a trial his acct name should not be disclosed it would be rude if he continues on this path either way he will be noticed eventually :)

Switch 01-26-2008 05:31 AM

eh I was gonna lock him :p
You know why (read mah sig)

xAzerothx 01-26-2008 05:48 AM

I don't see anything in your sig that seems of importance.

Switch 01-26-2008 05:52 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Icy
But i do not believe someone should be able to go on zone and say he hates ***s and they disgust him

Quote:

Originally Posted by Sig
*Switch (FAQ): I'm jewish.

..

cbk1994 01-26-2008 05:53 AM

If you mean the thing about Christmas, get over it.

I'm an atheist. It's just rude to do what you did. If someone says merry christmas to me, I will say Merry Christmas to them. It's just being polite.

Switch 01-26-2008 06:15 AM

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Originally Posted by cbkbud (Post 1371960)
If you mean the thing about Christmas, get over it.

I'm an atheist. It's just rude to do what you did. If someone says merry christmas to me, I will say Merry Christmas to them. It's just being polite.

What are you talking about :oo:
Yeah I'd do the same thing, Christmas, Quanza, w.e, but never say "I hate ____s" unless the "_____s" is a person.

xAzerothx 01-26-2008 06:24 AM

Your religion is an importance? It shouldn't matter if you're black, white, blah blah, christian, jewish, japanese, chinese, and all of that stuff. Sorry I'm too lazy to name them all.

Dante55555 01-26-2008 06:45 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bell (Post 1371947)
asking this to be added when its already there

He's saying it's NOT in there and I don't see anything about it in there. Being honest, I don't; I can be on the ignorant side and can miss things so point it out for me if it is:

"Another abuse of chat and forum privileges is when players use abusive language (cursing or threatening language), racial attacks or comments, or sexually explicit comments, either general or specific, when communicating to individual players, in the content of mass messages via the GraalOnline chat system, or via the discussion boards."

Racial attacks goes under it, you're saying?

xAzerothx 01-26-2008 08:12 AM

Just yesterday people were assaulting be saying swear words because I said I believed in Santa.

DeathOfRa 01-26-2008 04:26 PM

I will say this now, We are NOT supposed to perform any racist actions or prejudice. If you see anyone, you report it. I don't care if this is a little late or not, I am just saying this to have it clear. This goes for ANY server. Yes even you Zodiac.

cbk1994 01-26-2008 05:28 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by xAzerothx (Post 1371980)
Just yesterday people were assaulting be saying swear words because I said I believed in Santa.

reallly?????!!?? me tooooo!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Ravenblade1979 01-26-2008 07:47 PM

"A Definition of Racism
The American Heritage Dictionary defines racism as follows:

1)Discrimination or prejudice based on race
2)The belief that race accounts for differences in human character or ability and that a particular race is superior to others"




Without prejudice there is no racism. I wish people would know that. And as for that problem on zone. It won't be stopped. If they aren't willing. We staff can do as much as possible to stop it but it won't go away.

Rufus 01-26-2008 10:51 PM

Assuming that this incident has spurted from Zone, if it's such a big problem I don't know why Zone hasn't hired some player moderating staff (Police) aside from the development staff. There is no point in adding two work loads on one staff team, unless they're somewhat related in nature. Personally I don't feel as though the pre-teen staff on this server can judge these kind of situations fairly and rubbing their "power" in people's faces.

Aside from that, it clearly states:
Quote:

Another abuse of chat and forum privileges is when players use abusive language (cursing or threatening language), racial attacks (THIS INCLUDES JEWS LOL) or comments, or sexually explicit comments, either general or specific, when communicating to individual players, in the content of mass messages via the GraalOnline chat system, or via the discussion boards.

Switch 01-26-2008 10:56 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Rufus (Post 1372084)
Personally I don't feel as though the pre-teen staff on this server can judge these kind of situations fairly and rubbing their "power" in people's faces.

No I don't :oo:
And I'm the only one of those...
And actually I do judge them fairly, but having someone tell them that they shouldn't be hating on other religions I feel that they should have been locked...

Rufus 01-26-2008 10:58 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Switch (Post 1372086)
No I don't :oo:
And I'm the only one of those...
And actually I do judge them fairly, but having someone tell them that they shouldn't be hating on other religions I feel that they should have been locked...

You're the only one because you're like Contiga's pet or something. You're just a kid, and you have a somewhat condescending attitude about you which is pretty disgraceful and I'd rather not be told what and what not to do by someone like yourself. That's just personal preference though.

Rescate 01-26-2008 11:44 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Rufus (Post 1372088)
You're the only one because you're like Contiga's pet or something. You're just a kid, and you have a somewhat condescending attitude about you which is pretty disgraceful and I'd rather not be told what and what not to do by someone like yourself. That's just personal preference though.

There is a big problem with zone staff actually but thats a diffrent subject all on its own and thats about it and switch trys his best but he is a developer or he should be more

Switch 01-27-2008 12:55 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Rufus (Post 1372088)
You're the only one because you're like Contiga's pet or something. You're just a kid, and you have a somewhat condescending attitude about you which is pretty disgraceful and I'd rather not be told what and what not to do by someone like yourself. That's just personal preference though.

I never told you to do anything.
By the way, that would be Dante, not me.

Dante55555 02-02-2008 04:25 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Rufus (Post 1372088)
You're just a kid

But at the time, at least, he was a staff member. Within reason (key words here) you should listen to what a staff member says.

I do know, however, how "uniquely" Switch can act.


Quote:

Originally Posted by Switch (Post 1372125)
that would be Dante

=p

Switch 02-02-2008 04:30 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dante55555 (Post 1373239)
But at the time, at least, he was a staff member. Within reason (key words here) you should listen to what a staff member says.

I do know, however, how "uniquely" Switch can act.

Everyone has a unique quality, mine is being me.

Quote:

=p
And you like that? xD

Tracker180 02-02-2008 05:11 AM

three words, Freedom of Speech

PaperMario 02-02-2008 05:12 AM

Alright guys, off-topic enough? Topic locked.


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