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Ziro_of_the_Turks 12-28-2007 01:56 AM

Proposal for Ogma Bracer Stats
 
The other discussion had some decent results, so now we should vote on this.

Original Ogma Bracer Stats:
Strength +2
resist_physical 30
resist_cold 20
Damage +15
Health_Regen +1
Medium-level relic (100/50 wisdom required)


Proposed New Ogma Bracer Stats:
Strength + 1
resist_physical 30
resist_cold 20
Damage +5
Health_Regen +1
Medium-level relic (100/50 wisdom required)



Do you think they should be released like this?
Do you think it should be a high-level relic with those new stats?
Or do you think the stats are still too power?
Vote now!
And explain why that's your opinion (especially if you voted no... so you can propose what would be better)
And let's push for staff to release this.

Gothika 12-28-2007 02:11 AM

Since It is still a high class peice of armour. It Definitely needs to be a high relic. It is a vast improvment on the old stats. Damage + 15. Madness.

Ziro_of_the_Turks 12-28-2007 02:20 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Gothika (Post 1366280)
Since It is still a high class peice of armour. It Definitely needs to be a high relic.

Honestly, I'd be happy either way.

If given only 2 choices: I'd rather have a good item that takes effort to get, than a weak item that is easy to get. (or even worse: No item... as it stands now)

Gothika 12-28-2007 02:38 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ziro_of_the_Turks (Post 1366286)
Honestly, I'd be happy either way.

If given only 2 choices: I'd rather have a good item that takes effort to get, than a weak item that is easy to get. (or even worse: No item... as it stands now)

I don't suppose it matter. Medium or High. It is possible to get 600/300 grace with atleast 14 level wisdom aslong as you know the right people or have the right items.

Ziro_of_the_Turks 12-28-2007 02:40 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Gothika (Post 1366288)
I don't suppose it matter. Medium or High. It is possible to get 600/300 grace with atleast 14 level wisdom aslong as you know the right people or have the right items.

30 wisdom stat and use all the improvement pots you can... I can't think of anything else.
Will that do the trick at such a low level? :O

Gothika 12-28-2007 02:47 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ziro_of_the_Turks (Post 1366289)
30 wisdom stat and use all the improvement pots you can... I can't think of anything else.
Will that do the trick at such a low level? :O

Try to get 30 power and wisdom and you'll have it with out improvment potions. Dual Rings of Prelate, Sigil of Thunder, Sash of Clarity. Those king of items. I know Felix used to have all these and lent them out to player to get relics. But, he got the amulate PKed out of him and sold the rest.

cyan3 12-28-2007 02:54 AM

The new stats are ok the old stats were over kill but i think it should still be a high level relic the stats are still too good for a mediem level relic.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Gothika (Post 1366290)
Try to get 30 power and wisdom and you'll have it with out improvment potions. Dual Rings of Prelate, Sigil of Thunder, Sash of Clarity. Those king of items. I know Felix used to have all these and lent them out to player to get relics. But, he got the amulate PKed out of him and sold the rest.

I still have the Sash of Clarity, farmers hat and moon shield the amulet got pked like you said i used Dual Elornds not perlates also i had to prepare a weapon with +2 wisdom and +1 pow to get over 300/600 grace to get the high level brigid relic.

Tigairius 12-28-2007 03:43 AM

As if Ogma wasn't already the most powerful PKing god, you want amazing bracers too? I think not.

Gothika 12-28-2007 03:50 AM

It's an improvement on the old bracers. But thats why I think it should have minus stats too. To even it out.

OasaTor_PK 12-28-2007 05:13 AM

If omga bracers are brought in / changed I demand my leuc armor to be removed of the terrible 1.5ish speed cap.

BigBear3 12-28-2007 07:40 AM

I didn't vote because there isn't an option that says "No."

Ziro_of_the_Turks 12-28-2007 07:56 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by OasaTor_PK (Post 1366322)
If omga bracers are brought in / changed I demand my leuc armor to be removed of the terrible 1.5ish speed cap.

Then why'd you vote "no"?!
That's already been discussed as a problem...
ALL problems should be fixed x.x

Start a thread to get that fixed, rather than trying to keep this one from being fixed "because it's fair" :[

Gothika 12-28-2007 12:19 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ziro_of_the_Turks (Post 1366344)
Start a thread to get that fixed, rather than trying to keep this one from being fixed "because it's fair" :[

Loads of people have asked for that over the years. It amazes me that It doesn't work. After, it works perfectly fine on debug.

OasaTor_PK 12-28-2007 07:17 PM

The reason I voted no, is because you really expect something to get changed? Staff have other things to do if you want to look at it that way.

REW_darklink200 01-11-2008 07:00 AM

hmm
 
I say leave the stats where they are. The current stats are dam+5 regeneration+1 armour+20 resist cold+15

and 100/50 is not medium grace. It's low.
Medium is 300/150
High is 600/300

Get it right. :p

Ziro_of_the_Turks 01-11-2008 08:04 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by REW_darklink200 (Post 1369124)
I say leave the stats where they are. The current stats are dam+5 regeneration+1 armour+20 resist cold+15

and 100/50 is not medium grace. It's low.
Medium is 300/150
High is 600/300

Get it right. :p

Current stats?
The item doesn't exist... that's what this whole thread is about.
The stats I posted as "original stats" are the original stats intended for the bracers, as shown on the "Ogma" thread.
The ones I proposed are intended to be more balanced, and more acceptable to release the bracers on GK. But a few people have said it's still too strong and a con-handicap would make it balanced.

And as for medium being 300/150... see the poll x.x

REW_darklink200 01-11-2008 08:20 AM

Hmm
 
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Here's what they currently do if they were obtainable. I still think they're overpowered.

Ziro_of_the_Turks 01-11-2008 08:41 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by REW_darklink200 (Post 1369135)
Here's what they currently do if they were obtainable. I still think they're overpowered.

Correction: Those are the stats on debug.
The only way to know what the stats would be if attainable... is by asking staff such as Bjorn, or whoever gets to decide that.

But that's the point of this thread- putting together ideas on stats to see if they'll ever put them up.

MajinDragon 01-13-2008 12:49 AM

Just popping in.

At this moment in time, ogma does not need bracers, it's currently the best pking god so i'd wait until the other god's spells/items are released/fixed before buffing up ogma players...

Gothika 01-13-2008 12:54 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MajinDragon (Post 1369372)
Just popping in.

At this moment in time, ogma does not need bracers, it's currently the best pking god so i'd wait until the other god's spells/items are released/fixed before buffing up ogma players...

Err... No. I wouldn't say its the best PKing God. The blessing is good, but people who worship ogma arn't heads above the rest of us.

SuperCornGuy 02-19-2008 02:50 AM

Who ever the Fork says it's still too high is stupido, it went down 10 damage, that's plenty for me.

Tigairius 02-19-2008 07:05 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SuperCornGuy (Post 1375661)
Who ever the Fork says it's still too high is stupido, it went down 10 damage, that's plenty for me.

Considering "Bracers of Dexterity" are the only bracers (besides ice bracers) that have another stat besides ac and armour I would say that ogma bracers are still far too over powered. As if the game isn't unbalanced enough-- Ogma is already the best god for PKing. Ogma doesn't need any bracers and I wish you guys would have never even learned that there were supposed to be ogma bracers.

BigBear3 02-20-2008 06:50 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Tigairius (Post 1375740)
I wish you guys would have never even learned that there were supposed to be ogma bracers.

Yea. Ogma's resistance to poison puts you at such an advantage while PKing. And rabies puts your speed below 0.500. You don't need bracers.


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