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Codein 12-23-2007 10:33 PM

Right, please help.
 
http://img132.imageshack.us/my.php?image=tracedih4.png

http://img140.imageshack.us/my.php?i...ull****yi5.png

Fill the stars in with the swear word for poo :P

As you might know, there are the Quian'Dor tiles compared to RPG Maker tiles.

Are they traced? Are they just mere recolours? I admit, they look the same, but they're not recolours. Hell, I've never seen those RPG Maker tiles before, since I drew all my inspiration from Esteria's tiles and Secret of Mana.

Quote:

Corsein: Prove they're traced.
Corsein: They are not traced, at all.
Corsein: You don't have a clue what the hell you're talking about.
AlexNoHikari: Haha, oh wow.
AlexNoHikari: Apprently they are or you wouldn't give a ****.
Corsein: You obviously have no idea how much time I've put into this tileset. That's why I'm getting so pissed off.
AlexNoHikari: Really? They don't even look that great.
Corsein: Maybe they don't but atleast I'm trying?
AlexNoHikari: Trying does not = tracing, my friend.
Corsein: I'm not ****ing tracing.
Corsein: Good god man.
Corsein: You just have no clue.
AlexNoHikari: So why do they look nearly exactly the same.
AlexNoHikari: The floor tiles in the right corner are RECOLORS
Corsein: Recolours of what?!
AlexNoHikari: RPG Maker XP tilesets.
Corsein: No they're not.
AlexNoHikari: Ok.
Corsein: Show me an example then, smart arse.
Corsein: Go on.
Corsein: Show me an example.
AlexNoHikari: Sure.
Corsein: Prove what you're saying.
AlexNoHikari: Give me a sec.
Corsein: Then I'll quit.
AlexNoHikari: http://img140.imageshack.us/my.php?i...ull****yi5.png
Corsein: They're not even similar?
AlexNoHikari: lol
AlexNoHikari: ok
AlexNoHikari: i really like how ignorant you are
AlexNoHikari: it's great
Corsein: Lol.
Corsein: You don't know ****.
AlexNoHikari: Why's that?
Corsein: Because there's no resembelance apart from the fact that they're the same pattern (the black and white tile). I dunno why you shoved in the tile with circles and crosses on it. Maybe just because you thought it looked nice.
Corsein: I think.
Corsein: You're blind.
AlexNoHikari: I think.
AlexNoHikari: You should actually work next time.
Corsein: Lol.
AlexNoHikari: What is Esteria,btw?
AlexNoHikari: Because you even said you copied it's tileset.
AlexNoHikari: or drew "inspiration" from it.
Corsein: I never said I copied it.
Corsein: There's a big difference between being inspired and copying.
AlexNoHikari: Oh, I'm sure.
AlexNoHikari: But you would't know.
Corsein: Lol.
Corsein: I wouldn't, no.
Corsein: Because, supposedly, I steal tiles.
Corsein: Though, answer me this, how could I get away with it?
Corsein: I can't.
AlexNoHikari: Because it's GRAAL.
Corsein: That's why I didn't steal them.
AlexNoHikari: Nobody gives a ****.
Corsein: But they do.
AlexNoHikari: It's Graal
Corsein: You're not really a member of the Graal community. They care and they give a **** and I've been showing them progress of the Quian tiles for some time and they've not said a word.
Corsein: Never.
AlexNoHikari: Graal isn't serious buissness, it's just some ****ty MMORPG made by nazis.
Corsein: Then why do you play it?
AlexNoHikari: Because it's fun.
AlexNoHikari: Never said it wasn't fun.
This is the argument it spawned from :P

Pimmeh 12-23-2007 10:38 PM

If my opinion is credible here (since Quian'Dor is mine), I say that the one who even implies that Jimmy stole these is an idiot. They have a general architectural style that is the same, but nothing more.
Yeah, red roof things....omg?

DustyPorViva 12-23-2007 10:41 PM

Good job putting a curseword in your filename,'causing the link to not work :P I got it open anyways... let's see here.
I'm having a hard time knowing what exactly what you want use to compare. Post the RPG tiles themselves(not a copy or paste or anything, just the original image), then I'll tell you. Though from what you posted, the rugs in the second image are EXACTLY the same ones from the first tileset.
Oh, and I really like those grey stone steps.

Codein 12-23-2007 10:47 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DustyPorViva (Post 1365367)
Good job putting a curseword in your filename,'causing the link to not work :P I got it open anyways... let's see here.
I'm having a hard time knowing what exactly what you want use to compare. Post the RPG tiles themselves(not a copy or paste or anything, just the original image), then I'll tell you. Though from what you posted, the rugs in the second image are EXACTLY the same ones from the first tileset.
Oh, and I really like those grey stone steps.

Image one:
The two different types of house tile (the big one and the small one)

And the grey steps and the cliffs.

Image Two:
The two different types of floor tiles. The coloured ones are mine, the grey ones are RPG maker.

Also, another note, those images were not put together by me but rather the guy who's accusing me of stealing.

DustyPorViva 12-23-2007 10:58 PM

Err... in that case. Not even remotely similar.
For the rugs... the grey thing isn't even a rug! It's a stone pathway or something. The houses are similar in influence... but there's no way to avoid that, it is medieval after all. He's being retarded.
There is nothing stolen, recolored, or even similar to each other.

Codein 12-23-2007 11:35 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DustyPorViva (Post 1365374)
Err... in that case. Not even remotely similar.
For the rugs... the grey thing isn't even a rug! It's a stone pathway or something. The houses are similar in influence... but there's no way to avoid that, it is medieval after all. He's being retarded.
There is nothing stolen, recolored, or even similar to each other.

Thankyou. I'd like Jigga and his friend to print off this thread, put it in their pipes and smoke it.

DustyPorViva 12-23-2007 11:38 PM

Heh... Jigga? You could have posted in the first thread that he was the accuser and never had wasted any time posting images or such nonsense and we'd have known it was bull****.

Codein 12-23-2007 11:41 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DustyPorViva (Post 1365386)
Heh... Jigga? You could have posted in the first thread that he was the accuser and never had wasted any time posting images or such nonsense and we'd have known it was bull****.

He wasn't the initial accuser. I wouldn't give him the credit of throwing together even such a pathetic argument. Like always, he's just piggy backin'.

Switch 12-23-2007 11:50 PM

That's a definite Anti-Unixmad person, saying Graal's ran by natzi's...

Codein 12-24-2007 12:06 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Switch (Post 1365391)
That's a definite Anti-Unixmad person, saying Graal's ran by natzi's...

It's what I thought. He's full of contradictions. Graal is just a ****ty mmorpg, but he finds it fun? Makes no sense.

He went on to say that nobody here on the Graal forums has "noticed the tiles are stolen" because we're all idiots and retards, apparently.

He plays Kingdoms a lot I think. If it's the right guy, his account's command99999

MrAnonymous_P2P 12-24-2007 01:16 AM

Wait Jigga is involved in this? Oh in that case all this is total crap.

ibo4lock

Codein 12-24-2007 02:59 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MrAnonymous_P2P (Post 1365421)
Wait Jigga is involved in this? Oh in that case all this is total crap.

ibo4lock

No, Jigga's not really involved, he just happened to bring it to my attention what this guy was saying by accusing me but Jigga isn't the source of all this.

cyan3 12-24-2007 03:28 AM

I've seen Jigga use RPG Maker XP tiles in the past.

Switch 12-24-2007 03:30 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by cyan3 (Post 1365458)
I've seen Jigga use RPG Maker XP tiles in the past.

No

He makes people do it for him.

cyan3 12-24-2007 03:34 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Switch (Post 1365459)
No

He makes people do it for him.

Once i was talking to Jigga and he said he had backups of almost all the classic servers and some servers that were in development.

Codein 12-24-2007 03:41 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by cyan3 (Post 1365461)
Once i was talking to Jigga and he said he had backups of almost all the classic servers and some servers that were in development.

I'd assumed as much. It's the only real explanation for all the revival attempts. I know he has Dual Ortus in his clutches but that's because Stan released all the content for free use. Man, thank god Dual Ortus is half rate stuff and practically unusable.

MrAnonymous_P2P 12-24-2007 06:25 AM

He stole from Niromia several times...

If I understood right Jigga got a new account some years ago named Exil, was that correct?

LaughingMan 12-24-2007 08:34 AM

Well, RPG Maker was full of user created and ripped gfx, alot of rpg maker's tiles came from snes and sega games. so the person saying they look like RPGM tiles isnt entirely false.

DustyPorViva 12-24-2007 08:55 AM

RPG Maker's tiles, as far as I remember, were custom made... at least the ones that come default with RPG Maker.

Do they look like RPG Maker's tiles? No, they look like RPG tiles. There's nothing unique about a greyish house with wooden supports and a red roof. Nearly every RPG has them. They look like the houses from RPG Maker 'cause RPG Maker's houses look like every other RPG house. There is nothing even close to consider ripped here.

Pimmeh 12-24-2007 10:23 AM

Quote:

Once i was talking to Jigga and he said he had backups of almost all the classic servers and some servers that were in development.
I hear a lot of people say that, why is it so cool to have them?
omg, Stefan has them too!

Codein 12-25-2007 12:56 AM

Oh, classic. Jigga's now badgering me to put RPG Maker tiles on a tileset for him.


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