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Knightmare1 12-11-2007 12:09 AM

Passwords
 
i dont like not having the options to chose a password, and if i lose the email, then im screwed. so why dont you let us choose passwords?

cbk1994 12-11-2007 12:50 AM

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Originally Posted by Knightmare1 (Post 1363219)
i dont like not having the options to chose a password, and if i lose the email, then im screwed. so why dont you let us choose passwords?

They are worried people will find other people's passwords, YET THEY USE THE SAME PASSWORD FOR THE FORUMS AS GRAAL ACCOUNT.

Darlene159 12-11-2007 12:54 AM

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Originally Posted by Knightmare1 (Post 1363219)
i dont like not having the options to chose a password, and if i lose the email, then im screwed. so why dont you let us choose passwords?

Why don't you just write it down somewhere? Too many people are not very creative with passwords, and they are easily found out.

cbk1994 12-11-2007 01:02 AM

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Originally Posted by Darlene159 (Post 1363235)
Why don't you just write it down somewhere? Too many people are not very creative with passwords, and they are easily found out.

[*] Randomly generate a password

[_] Create my own password [__________________]

By creating your own password, you are at risk of your password being found out. We recommend generating one randomly.

DustyPorViva 12-11-2007 01:55 AM

If it was such a secure method more sites/games would do it, they don't.
Not to mention peoples accounts are still stolen all the time.

BigBear3 12-11-2007 02:53 AM

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Originally Posted by cbkbud (Post 1363242)
[*] Randomly generate a password

[_] Create my own password [__________________]

By creating your own password, you are at risk of your password being found out. We recommend generating one randomly.

Agreed. So Knightmare can't complain.

Tigairius 12-11-2007 06:03 AM

Well, you know those weak-strong password detectors on websites that tell you how strong your password is? Just put one of those in and don't let people create an account with their own password unless it says "Strong"

DustyPorViva 12-11-2007 06:40 AM

*brags about probably being one of the few that has a custom password*

Twinny 12-11-2007 07:52 AM

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Originally Posted by DustyPorViva (Post 1363286)
*brags about probably being one of the few that has a custom password*

I have one. I poked Stefan and he gave me one :)

I don't readily suggest doing that though: i got lucky :p

DustyPorViva 12-11-2007 07:57 AM

Heh, I bugged some GP years ago back on 2.xx or whatever and he set it up for me. Pity it's only on my old account that's not upgraded.

Nabru 12-11-2007 08:27 AM

Passwords should stay randomly generated, when people were given the option to choose their passwords they were getting stolen left and right.

DustyPorViva 12-11-2007 08:39 AM

There was NEVER an option to choose their own passwords, as far as I remember. I remember this because back in the day I was quite baffled at the concept of auto-generated passwords since Graal was the first I ever seen do it... and still is the only one. It could have happened while I was gone from Graal though.
I mean if brute-force is what gets all these custom passwords stolen(assuming they're just too simple), simply disallow repeated failed attempts. Otherwise it's either a really simple password that someone just happened to guess, or it's another hacking method that would still happen even to an auto-generated password.

cyan3 12-11-2007 10:13 AM

Custom passwords won't be so bad now that you can lock your account to your computer id.

Crow 12-11-2007 02:06 PM

I'm fine with randomly generated password. If a site/game doesnt offer that service, I'm using a password generator to generate such a random one and use it.

Xterminator 12-11-2007 02:29 PM

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Originally Posted by Darlene159 (Post 1363235)
Why don't you just write it down somewhere? Too many people are not very creative with passwords, and they are easily found out.

Yea just write it down or something x_x

napo_p2p 12-11-2007 08:19 PM

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Originally Posted by Xterminator (Post 1363305)
Yea just write it down or something x_x

Or, better yet, don't lose your email address.

cbk1994 12-11-2007 11:22 PM

My password eats you.

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At one point, that actually was my password ... except that I had to hang a little notecard from my desk, and I kept misentering it ... I changed it.

Inverness 12-11-2007 11:28 PM

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Originally Posted by cbkbud (Post 1363359)
My password eats you.

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At one point, that actually was my password ... except that I had to hang a little notecard from my desk, and I kept misentering it ... I changed it.

Thats why you save it in encrypted text file of course.

Xterminator 12-11-2007 11:53 PM

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Originally Posted by napo_p2p (Post 1363329)
Or, better yet, don't lose your email address.

Or yea :)

Rapidwolve24 12-12-2007 01:48 AM

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Originally Posted by Twinny (Post 1363291)
I have one. I poked Stefan and he gave me one :)

I don't readily suggest doing that though: i got lucky :p

Lyndzey gave me mine <3

Laek2007 12-12-2007 03:49 AM

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Originally Posted by DustyPorViva (Post 1363286)
*brags about probably being one of the few that has a custom password*

I had a custom password for my old account. I remember back in the day when begging Lyndzey I think for a password change :D

cbk1994 12-12-2007 05:32 AM

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Originally Posted by Inverness (Post 1363360)
Thats why you save it in encrypted text file of course.

But where do I store the password to the encrypted file?

Crow 12-12-2007 04:44 PM

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Originally Posted by cbkbud (Post 1363417)
But where do I store the password to the encrypted file?

Get a goddamn pen and write it on a piece of paper. Just left of my screen theres a card with all my passwords written down.

cbk1994 12-12-2007 10:56 PM

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Originally Posted by Crow (Post 1363439)
Get a goddamn pen and write it on a piece of paper. Just left of my screen theres a card with all my passwords written down.

What if the mean people break in and steal the card?

xXziroXx 12-13-2007 09:25 PM

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Originally Posted by cbkbud (Post 1363463)
What if the mean people break in and steal the card?

TIME TO CALL GHOSTBUSTERS!

I love my randomly generated Graal password, it's really easy to memorize and stuff. :)

EDIT: Wooo, 2000 posts...

Lyndzey 12-13-2007 10:27 PM

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Originally Posted by DustyPorViva (Post 1363294)
There was NEVER an option to choose their own passwords, as far as I remember.

Well, before Graal had a way to create accounts on the website, Fuitad would make them and would let us choose our own passwords. We had to send him an email to create an account back then.

I used to set custom passwords for people, as long as they weren't the person's account name or something extremely obvious (I got "graal" as a request once). I do not see the huge problem with it, except if the person is using that password for everything else (email, AIM, etc). This is because if one person sends you a virus that gets your Graal password, they now have access to everything else. Unfortunately, this happened to me after I left and the person was able to get on my AIM.

I think there might be a rule against custom passwords now. I don't see why it is such a big deal to have one considering it's only a 7 character combination and isn't that difficult to memorize.


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