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UnknownMasterMind 10-28-2007 02:45 AM

Mouse to shoot
 
I am making a petition to abolish the mouse to shoot. (Trying to go at it in a way that shows the mass public is agianst it.)

Names of people in favor of abolishment:
-Format: <Nickname>:<Account>

+Sayian Oozaru : SayianOozaru
+Puppy : DeathOfRa
+Tro Xanadu : Stoned4Life
+Desear : UnknownMasterMind
+[]D.[].[]V[].[]D : JOK3RZLEADER
+Huwajux : Huwajux(?, I don't know if he is on our side, I think he is.)
+Icy : Rescate
+Zeru : darksage15
+Kds : Dante55555
+Shadow : IXIs_Last_Stand
+TheIgg : TheIgg
+Fire Man : Anthonyc2
+Chipsta : Guest
+The Clash/Darth haha : yo_momma516
+Phoenix : Lord_Conorr
+Iki : ilovegirlzz
+reaper246 : 0
+Dis0bey : Blindedjester
+Typhoon Xhen : KHooten
+Vincent Xanadu : Deanjaloe_P2P
+Sticky z.z : NorthAngel
+Recruit Scy : popeye_12
+Hayden : Darkmaster
+Shade : thenewgrimangels
+Hype Cypher : Xterminator
+unknown : drgondude
+evan57 : evan57
+Az : xAzerothx
+Kia : Kia345
+Magadal : Crow


P.S.
This is for Stefan or Dan to see, If either of you see this thread, please tell me how many people need to agree to abolish it.

UnknownMasterMind 10-28-2007 04:17 AM

Double Post, First post is for petitions. I have collected 30 names/signatures of people who want mouse click to shoot, abolished (destroyed), most are p2ps, and their are a few trials (suprised me since trials use it mostly). Since, the population fo Zone is usually at 40 througout the day, this is more than half of the players wanting it gone, so I would like to ask that action be taken.

P.S.
Please do not ignore this thread, as this is the voice of the people. If half the community of a town were to say no to something, then they would win, as it should be in the game. Listen to the voice of the players.

xAzerothx 10-28-2007 04:19 AM

Put my name down too. :frown:

Switch 10-28-2007 04:59 AM

I don't like how it's set up, but I have a way to keep it yet make it better.

Switch 10-28-2007 05:02 AM

My Top Secret (NOT ANYMORE!) Plan to Keep Mouse Shoot but Make it Fairer...
 
I know many people just want it -BAM!- gone. But I have a way to keep it and have it fairer.

Simply put: It only works the direction your facing. You face up and you can only have bullets go in that direction (<^, ^, ^>); you face right and you can only have bullets go in that direction (^>, >, v>); etc.

UnknownMasterMind 10-28-2007 05:07 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Switch (Post 1355035)
I know many people just want it -BAM!- gone. But I have a way to keep it and have it fairer.

Simply put: It only works the direction your facing. You face up and you can only have bullets go in that direction (<^, ^, ^>); you face right and you can only have bullets go in that direction (^>, >, v>); etc.

Thought of that but they can still shoot Diagonally with ease while the other player has to use the arrows, and go diagonally. But based off your idea why not just make it an alternate to S and D, make it the same they shoot in the direction they face it would be S and D just mouse instead of having to use the keyboard.

But still in any case, this would be alot better than what it is right now. :)

kia345 10-28-2007 06:31 AM

Getting rid of a little piece of Zone is the first step to getting rid of the whole thing, sign me up.

Crow 10-28-2007 12:03 PM

Magadal:Crow

Get me in.

blazeingonix 10-28-2007 01:22 PM

What about: Millenium : blazeingonix

Admins 10-28-2007 01:24 PM

Mouse shoot is made to make it easier for new people, using the ASD stuff can be weird for new people really. If there are things about the mouse stuff that are unfair then report them, instead of whining.

Crow 10-28-2007 01:38 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Stefan (Post 1355060)
instead of whining.

Why dont you try to respect us, or read our threads.

UnknownMasterMind 10-28-2007 02:21 PM

I think the one way to make it fair is just make mouse like S, and D, just you click instead of pressing the keys, no aiming is what I am sayin. The aiming is unfair in a sense that is makes people who use the old method of fighting doomed to die. I am not trying to do this because of sheer hate of it, I want Zone to keep its old fighting styles, because mouse to shoot is making alot of people upset. If you could do this Stefan, we would be highly gratefull.

P.S.
I did not mean to sound like I was whining, I was trying to get enough Zonians together to show that the community can change things if enough of them agree on it. I wanted people to know, that although they are just players they are the people, without players the Admin have no one to make things for, as the players have nothing to play.

_________________-

Also, question is Dan suppose to be the voice of the people, like as in a reprsentitive of what the people want? If we tell him he will run it by you?

pooper200000 10-28-2007 03:09 PM

Ok. I am not whining but I am making a logical point. Well I know on zone logic isn't really needed anyway but... when a player is face down so you see there whole face and they want to turn diaganol if they use the mouse they just FLIP they don't turn sideways for an instant they just flip. Now for those of us that use keys we actually have to turn for a split second before we are facing up. Thats one of the big problems with the mouse shooting. Desear can explain this its rather challenging to explain it.

UnknownMasterMind 10-28-2007 03:45 PM

I just found out this can solve everything, just make sure they can not use the extra angles of fire to make it fair to arrow players. If you use the mouse you have 4 directions of fire that you can not get with using arrow keys.

The videos will be attached shortly, I need to find out how to compress them...

Tracker180 10-28-2007 03:50 PM

usually, I'd agree, but most of us just want it to go away because we keep getting owned by it

Tracker180 10-28-2007 03:52 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by UnknownMasterMind (Post 1355078)
The videos will be attached shortly, I need to find out how to compress them...

sorry double post, you get to pick if you want the video made compressed or not in the capture options in F3

Crow 10-28-2007 04:12 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Tracker180 (Post 1355079)
usually, I'd agree, but most of us just want it to go away because we keep getting owned by it

Keyboard users have a disadvantage. That needs to be fixed, eh.

I just notice I got mine the wrong way, should be Crow : Magadal, but who cares ;P

UnknownMasterMind 10-28-2007 04:28 PM

Ok, I will post the video and also SN told me that it was unfair and I agree that they can turn completley around in a second to shoot you, this is really a problem in close range.

Dante_P2P 10-28-2007 04:54 PM

... So what your telling me is that you can turn around in a second? I think i can pull that off with the keyboard....

Crow 10-28-2007 05:11 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dante_P2P (Post 1355089)
... So what your telling me is that you can turn around in a second? I think i can pull that off with the keyboard....

He probably wants to say instantly :<

pooper200000 10-28-2007 05:16 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Crow (Post 1355092)
He probably wants to say instantly :<

yes that is what he meant

Switch 10-28-2007 08:28 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Stefan (Post 1355060)
Mouse shoot is made to make it easier for new people, using the ASD stuff can be weird for new people really. If there are things about the mouse stuff that are unfair then report them, instead of whining.

I actually came up with an idea for this is you saw my thread..

Switch 10-28-2007 08:32 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by UnknownMasterMind (Post 1355036)
Thought of that but they can still shoot Diagonally with ease while the other player has to use the arrows, and go diagonally. But based off your idea why not just make it an alternate to S and D, make it the same they shoot in the direction they face it would be S and D just mouse instead of having to use the keyboard.

Yeah I like that idea. :) Use the keyboard but mouse to shoots as if it were s (left click) and d (right click), right? Would have to make that true for jetpack, since Stefan didn't add it to that xD

Quote:

But still in any case, this would be alot better than what it is right now. :)
Thanks :D

Dante55555 10-28-2007 08:56 PM

Ok, I recently fought a guy using a handgun and mouseclick. I owned the kid the other day no problem. He whooped my *** today. Unbelievable. I had to actually pull out the stops to kill him and even then just barely. The kid was a complete noob the other day and now he's using the handgun better than Muroku ever did. Unreal. Handgun alone is lame enough, add mouseclick and anyone with a brainstem becomes a nearly unstoppable force.

Achtung 10-29-2007 07:18 AM

You can add me to that list ;).
Karri: Achtung

UnknownMasterMind 10-30-2007 12:07 AM

Ok, anyway, I just want to ask you make it an alternate way of pushing S and D, no aiming feature just shooting.

Dante_P2P 10-30-2007 12:49 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by UnknownMasterMind (Post 1355347)
Ok, anyway, I just want to ask you make it an alternate way of pushing S and D, no aiming feature just shooting.

WITH MY MAGIC POWERS! I DEMAND THIS TO HAPPEN! Well, sorry no D for you, you have to press it but S i changed to space bar! haha! But you can still use S haha!

Angel_Light 10-30-2007 12:50 AM

I have to play the devil's advocate on this one. Keep the mouse shoot.

kia345 10-30-2007 01:00 AM

Before Zone took a little bit of skill + timing to win. Now it takes nothing at all to land a shot. At least kill off the fact you aim with the mouse.

Frieza 11-03-2007 03:32 AM

add me up desear,

mouse to shoot is absolutely disgusting, its like the skill it takes to aim in zone...eradicated. so no matter how much skill u have aqquired, some1 can just log on and negate it with there 12d auto aiming mouse click. its made dodging impossible, and aiming is TOO easy...it needs eradicating, its destroyed zone.

Nefir 11-03-2007 03:36 AM

Add me up too I can't stand someone who showoff his "skills" for mouse shooting x.X Pretty unfair and does not need any skills to use too

Frieza 11-03-2007 03:38 AM

it has also added an extra dimension to shooting, thats what really affects me

UnknownMasterMind 11-03-2007 03:41 AM

I am trying to get this somwhere but so far, Dan is busy, and Stefan doesn't want to get rid of it but change it to make it fair. I don't know how to solve the problem, other than simply asking them to make it an alternate way to use S and D, just like the keyboard.

Knight 11-03-2007 03:27 PM

I doubt anything will be done, people are already used to it and it is optional. I am just saying :o I am not with or against because I use when I get lamed. Yesterday I logged on and was in Base 1 next to sweep and they started laming so I did it and Dante was like "ZOMG CLICKER! HUNTED~" so I kind of think you should just get over it...

Crono 11-03-2007 03:30 PM

I would call mouse shooting lame and all but the fact that everyone is able to use it would slap me back in the face...

Switch 11-03-2007 03:32 PM

I'll try to tell Stefan (or Dan, he's my ho ;)) what you're saying Des.

Knight 11-04-2007 06:03 AM

So what? Then why don't you click to...? Either do it or not, I am tired of people crying over the fact that people have the freedom to click. Geez this isn't a dictatorship just ****.

Dante55555 11-04-2007 06:19 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Knight (Post 1356060)
I doubt anything will be done, people are already used to it and it is optional. I am just saying :o I am not with or against because I use when I get lamed. Yesterday I logged on and was in Base 1 next to sweep and they started laming so I did it and Dante was like "ZOMG CLICKER! HUNTED~" so I kind of think you should just get over it...

Oh? I don't really care about mouseclicking so much anymore. I found a strategy to counter it. And I HIGHLY doubt I'd scream hunted at you. I very rarely hunt anyone because it takes effort and I don't think something so trivial requires so much effort. Or maybe I'm lazy, one of the two.

Knight 11-04-2007 07:04 AM

I'm talking about everyone z_z

seanthien 11-07-2007 07:06 PM

Decides to post in here. Seeing how lame mouse shooting realy is. Has anything been done about it yet? Jesus.

Zone is 2d, i don't see why you would add mouse shooting..Theres a huge disadvantage.


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