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pooper200000 09-14-2007 10:22 PM

Perfect graal?
 
So whats your perfect graal and why?

Stephen 09-16-2007 07:28 AM

I sort of wish Graal would advertise itself to investors so it can get the capital it needs to develop seriously online interest, and the business interest to stop all of the personal phony-bologna going on in the current administration.

When I say investors I don't mean a large community of share holders, but a few well educated business persons. Some of the methods they're using now to make money seem counter-intuitive to long-term financial success, which seems to imply (atleast to me) that Graal Online is struggling to make enough money to reach it's future goals.

That's not to imply Graal would shut down, only that it wouldn't have the financial backing to develop further and you would end up with a lot of the same, bad, player developed content - rather than some of the rich development we've seen a few times from the administration.

Rescate 09-16-2007 07:30 AM

Stephen can you dumb that down for us pie people :(

My perfect Graal Would be

To when maloria came back :O!

Crimson2005 09-16-2007 12:52 PM

No Ravenblade

Felix_Xenophobe 09-16-2007 12:53 PM

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Originally Posted by Crimson2005 (Post 1348088)
No Ravenblade

I lol'd.
Totally epic

kia345 09-16-2007 02:21 PM

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Originally Posted by Crimson2005 (Post 1348088)
No Ravenblade

Love is all you need~

UnknownMasterMind 09-16-2007 04:58 PM

Graal V2, was perfect Graal, No lag. Heaven on Earth!

Crono 09-16-2007 05:40 PM

I don't know...Graal is a heavy community game. It wouldn't be as good if there was like ten thousand players running around on one server. 100-200 is good, 300 is really crowded but still not too bad.

Graal needs to improve the quality of it's servers. By this, I mean PWA should have some quality control. For example, if you have a playerworld like Zodiac which reeks in terms of almost every aspect of developing (levels, probably scripts, graphics), PWA should force them to improve. BUT CRANO DONT U KNO ZODAIC IS DOING SO WEL? WUT R DEY GONNA DO ABUT IT LOL ITS ALREDY OWNING <- I don't really care. I remember UN pulled some stupid stunt where it was saving some stuff on trial accounts and globals (if I recall correctly) were going to take it down until it was fixed, or did take it down and fix it.

Crow 09-16-2007 05:47 PM

Yea, Zodiac is going well, but new players will probably leave when they see it. It looks horrible..

Stephen 09-16-2007 06:01 PM

The community we know and appreciate (I say the appreciation is overrated anyways) would still be there - but if Graal grew to massive amounts atleast then they would have the capital they need to fund future plans.

PrinceOfKenshin 09-16-2007 06:09 PM

My perfect Graal would have to be a more interactive development for the players. I must agree with Stephen, but i think if the Admins would open up to us more than Graal would become better.

Take Graal 3D for example, it is going to be the biggest jump for Graal;from 2d to 3D. Though no one has any idea on what is going on with it. Only the high globals, and or people that are hired out of Graal to help. Granted we all here aren't 3D developers i think if Stefan were to instead of getting the server done but to work on a editor for levels, animation,etc; it would become a bigger hit. This will give the people the chance to play with some 3D tools. I know that this seems absurd to make a editor but i really think it would help make a better Graal. Plus for you Admins think of this. What other game do you know has a 3D tools and allows you to have 3D servers. It's a huge way to make money. Not only do you get to play on 3D servers but you can make your own. :D

Crow 09-16-2007 06:26 PM

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Originally Posted by PrinceOfKenshin (Post 1348125)
My perfect Graal would have to be a more interactive development for the players. I must agree with Stephen, but i think if the Admins would open up to us more than Graal would become better.

Take Graal 3D for example, it is going to be the biggest jump for Graal;from 2d to 3D. Though no one has any idea on what is going on with it. Only the high globals, and or people that are hired out of Graal to help. Granted we all here aren't 3D developers i think if Stefan were to instead of getting the server done but to work on a editor for levels, animation,etc; it would become a bigger hit. This will give the people the chance to play with some 3D tools. I know that this seems absurd to make a editor but i really think it would help make a better Graal. Plus for you Admins think of this. What other game do you know has a 3D tools and allows you to have 3D servers. It's a huge way to make money. Not only do you get to play on 3D servers but you can make your own. :D

Well, servers, and 3D...actually, every first person shooter offers that.

Horrified 09-16-2007 06:37 PM

Nothing will make Graal better except better servers, and better management of servers. Not pointing anyone out, but the future of graal lies within servers, and they treat there servers like crap jokes, yet they think they can go somewhere.

PWA need to go around servers and see if the manager is capable of what he is doing, based on the staff he's hired, and the work he's had done on his server, and most importantly, the overall quality the server is right now, of course over quantity.

PrinceOfKenshin 09-16-2007 06:44 PM

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Originally Posted by Horrified (Post 1348130)
Nothing will make Graal better except better servers, and better management of servers. Not pointing anyone out, but the future of graal lies within servers, and they treat there servers like crap jokes, yet they think they can go somewhere.

PWA need to go around servers and see if the manager is capable of what he is doing, based on the staff he's hired, and the work he's had done on his server, and most importantly, the overall quality the server is right now, of course over quantity.

Yea sometimes i forget why i play graal. It's something i always come back to even though it's pointless. I just think that people who have servers that are somewhat the same should come together to make one server because then they are more likely to have a better quality server.

Horrified 09-16-2007 06:49 PM

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Originally Posted by PrinceOfKenshin (Post 1348132)
Yea sometimes i forget why i play graal. It's something i always come back to even though it's pointless. I just think that people who have servers that are somewhat the same should come together to make one server because then they are more likely to have a better quality server.

Not going to happen for several reasons, mainly confusion and power...

But people ignore the fact that although they may like the content, other players might not, and they blind themselves to look at only the positive outlook on his/her playerworld, ignoring any flaws spoken.

If players could put it through there heads they need to work together and make something, maybe a whole bunch of people with similar "Modern" ideas, or similar "Fantasy" ideas could come together and work on something with all there ideas together.

TalonShriner 09-16-2007 08:15 PM

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Originally Posted by Horrified (Post 1348134)
If players could put it through there heads they need to work together and make something, maybe a whole bunch of people with similar "Modern" ideas, or similar "Fantasy" ideas could come together and work on something with all there ideas together.

Yeah like none of this "I'm gonna make a PW and not tell anyone what it's about and expect all of the greatest developers to join."

DustyPorViva 09-16-2007 08:24 PM

I think Zelda has had too much of an impact on Graal, and I don't mean by way of graphics and gameplay.

"It's a secret to everybody"

Horrified 09-16-2007 08:29 PM

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Originally Posted by DustyPorViva (Post 1348158)
I think Zelda has had too much of an impact on Graal, and I don't mean by way of graphics and gameplay.

"It's a secret to everybody"

I laughed IRL

BECAUSE IT'S TRUE LOL

theHAWKER 09-16-2007 08:49 PM

perfect graal = when bungie (makers of halo 3) takes over graal and makes it cool :D

Horrified 09-16-2007 09:08 PM

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Originally Posted by theHAWKER (Post 1348163)
perfect graal = when bungie (makers of halo 3) takes over graal and makes it cool :D

Go away, right now.

kia345 09-16-2007 09:12 PM

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Originally Posted by theHAWKER (Post 1348163)
perfect graal = when bungie (makers of halo 3) takes over graal and makes it cool :D

Graal hasn't done anything to set it apart from other games of it's genre


Neither has Halo

Horrified 09-16-2007 09:15 PM

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Originally Posted by kia345 (Post 1348167)
Graal hasn't done anything to set it apart from other games of it's genre


Neither has Halo

Halo has mountain dew, that's the coolest thing they got going for them.

kia345 09-16-2007 09:16 PM

And even that's not really good

Ravenblade1979 09-16-2007 10:53 PM

More development being done, more advertising being done.

Spark910 09-16-2007 11:06 PM

One with a yearly worthwhile project being created. A new world each year isn't that big of a target. Or, at least, every 18 months.

One where they give up wasting resources on Graal 3D.

One where it is advertised.

Xterminator 09-16-2007 11:28 PM

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Originally Posted by Ravenblade1979 (Post 1348193)
More development being done, more advertising being done.

Yep true.

Vimerge 09-17-2007 12:30 AM

Graal should start from scratch again
all the servers turned into crap, imo
Graal Kingdoms-Never being updated
Zone-Meh, Graal community died so not many people on there, which is dead boring
all classic servers-****ing crap (sorry) but for real, zodiac for example, get it back to hosted, actually it doesnt even desirve being on the hosted list, the whole server is horrid.
UN,never really been good,just fun,*** graphics
Npulse, its ok but needs active dev
maloria, needs to come back, seriously it was the only good server with a lvling system (besides gk)
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To get u to the point, stefan needs to delete all servers and people will start rebuilding new servers,bigger oppurtunity and a bright future, no more boring servers where theres nothing to do,inactive staff/never any updates,and a dying community
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Oh yea, and a one payment membership, you pay once (28$) and never have to pay again, for every kind of server..lifetime all subscription

Horrified 09-17-2007 01:04 AM

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Originally Posted by Vimerge (Post 1348234)
Graal should start from scratch again
all the servers turned into crap, imo
Graal Kingdoms-Never being updated
Zone-Meh, Graal community died so not many people on there, which is dead boring
all classic servers-****ing crap (sorry) but for real, zodiac for example, get it back to hosted, actually it doesnt even desirve being on the hosted list, the whole server is horrid.
UN,never really been good,just fun,*** graphics
Npulse, its ok but needs active dev
maloria, needs to come back, seriously it was the only good server with a lvling system (besides gk)
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To get u to the point, stefan needs to delete all servers and people will start rebuilding new servers,bigger oppurtunity and a bright future, no more boring servers where theres nothing to do,inactive staff/never any updates,and a dying community
-----
Oh yea, and a one payment membership, you pay once (28$) and never have to pay again, for every kind of server..lifetime all subscription

You are stupid.

Re-read your post and you will understand.

I get that new servers are needed, but why the **** would you remove the old ones when they still attract players? They're **** to you, obviously not to the others.

DustyPorViva 09-17-2007 02:24 AM

In his defense, the only reason they attract players is because there aren't a lot of options.
The players are going to flock some where's, it doesn't mean that where ever they go is great, just that it's good enough compared to the others(which isn't a high standard).

zokemon 09-17-2007 03:56 AM

Zodiac scripts are completely horrid. I started a rescripting Zodiac project but with my new duties of having to deal with the main server so much and with all my stuff to deal with IRL, I don't have much time to spend on it. I also can't really trust any scripters to help me other then the ones I know in the community because almost everyone else just doesn't understand how to do co-operative scripting.

Horrified 09-17-2007 04:03 AM

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Originally Posted by zokemon (Post 1348268)
Zodiac scripts are completely horrid. I started a rescripting Zodiac project but with my new duties of having to deal with the main server so much and with all my stuff to deal with IRL, I don't have much time to spend on it. I also can't really trust any scripters to help me other then the ones I know in the community because almost everyone else just doesn't understand how to do co-operative scripting.

So you were pretty *Horrified looking at those scripts, huh?

Crow 09-17-2007 02:53 PM

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Originally Posted by Horrified (Post 1348270)
So you were pretty *Horrified looking at those scripts, huh?

BWAHAHAHA OH MAN THAT IS SO FUNNY!!!
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-_-

pooper200000 09-17-2007 10:13 PM

so your perfect graal is basicly a good zodiac at some of the people who posted?

CABAL49 09-19-2007 02:23 AM

Honestly, my perfect Graal was two years ago. I know it won't be like that, but, eh.

pooper200000 09-19-2007 03:11 AM

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Originally Posted by CABAL49 (Post 1348627)
Honestly, my perfect Graal was two years ago. I know it won't be like that, but, eh.

why was a lot of peoples favorite graal 2 years ago? ;o

bahamutstevetff 09-19-2007 03:40 AM

graal that was more player friendly than money hungry

BonzaiXxXSRStudios 09-25-2007 01:06 AM

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Originally Posted by bahamutstevetff (Post 1348640)
graal that was more player friendly than money hungry

Graal has never been money hungry to me...and player friendliness is not a thing you should be looking for on here, although i dont think the guys on here are too bad anyway..i mean yeah, you may come across your common "imo" every once and a while, which could possibly be a good or bad thing, i dont know.The definition of "imo" has never really been clearly defined, is this even how you spell it?...i thought it meant *** but someone said my cats an imo, and my dogs an imo, and my great grandgranny has wholes in her pannies.. it was horrible...:cry:

Crono 09-25-2007 11:41 AM

Oh, and my perfect Graal was 2000-2002. :pluffy:

syltburk 09-25-2007 12:43 PM

Graal Classic
be with all in NBK and Chill...

Shaun 09-26-2007 09:55 PM

1.28 or maybe 1.3


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