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PrinceOfKenshin 08-29-2007 03:05 AM

Who Made this?
 
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I have this saved to my computer and i want to find out who made it? I searched the forums and couldn't find the post i got it from. Anyway its a couple of years old

Switch 08-29-2007 03:21 AM

Mythic Legends Duh How Dare You Ask That >:o

Kyranki 08-29-2007 04:13 AM

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Originally Posted by Switch (Post 1344436)
Mythic Legends Duh How Dare You Ask That >:o

And how dare you get it wrong considering Mythic Legends did not own that body. Quit trying to be a smart-ass. My best guess considering the style is that Tony Rivers made it. As it resembles many of his bodies.

smirt362 08-29-2007 04:26 AM

Err..I think Jer maybe?

Switch 08-29-2007 04:26 AM

Yeah actually they did...

Atleast some server that started with an M...

PrinceOfKenshin 08-29-2007 05:03 AM

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Originally Posted by Kyranki (Post 1344453)
And how dare you get it wrong considering Mythic Legends did not own that body. Quit trying to be a smart-ass. My best guess considering the style is that Tony Rivers made it. As it resembles many of his bodies.

You are the second person who said that. Im trying to get rights to use it.

Kyranki 08-29-2007 05:31 AM

Who knows where Tony Rivers is now, hopefully not down on his luck. <3 Tony. So you might as well use it. There's probably not another who could give rights to you for it. Tony probably isn't using it and he's a generous guy :P

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Originally Posted by Switch (Post 1344455)
Yeah actually they did...

Atleast some server that started with an M...

No they didn't. Jer made Mythic Legends bodies and it just looks similar. TONY-****ing-RIVERS made that body. Mythic Legends bodies were made differently. And besides the bodies Jer made for Mythic Legends were BASED OFF of bodies TONY RIVERS made in the first place for Metropolis a while ago.

Don't talk when you don't know what you're talking about.

xXziroXx 08-29-2007 06:17 AM

Shut up Stan.


Tony Rivers originally made that body for Icarus (who later changed bodies I believe), and gave Jer permission to use any edit of it if he wanted too. Jer ONLY had that single front view when he began working on the bodies.

Over a year ago, Sage stole our character sprites from temp folder on RC (he was a newb back then, all forgiven now anyways) and claimed it as his own. From there it gets a bit blurry.. Sage uploaded it on Eden, and the Crass began to make a ****load of sprites for it.

Sometime later, Sage and Lance edited the body and made sprites for it - this is the version we use on Mythic Legends at the moment.

But yes, Mythic Legends is the original owner of all body sprites made after that single front view posted in the first post - if anyone else made edits to it (except Tony, duh), they are not allowed to use it.

You can read more here: http://forums.graalonline.com/forums...ad.php?t=66422

theHAWKER 08-29-2007 06:27 AM

well, if the person who owns it dosn't respond to this thread then, clame it ;D

or: like the ps3
copy it

smirt362 08-29-2007 07:02 AM

OOOOOH right, Tony Rivers. I think Jer told me about that or something.

xXziroXx 08-29-2007 07:27 AM

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Originally Posted by theHAWKER (Post 1344476)
well, if the person who owns it dosn't respond to this thread then, clame it ;D

or: like the ps3
copy it

I swear that you are getting more and more stupid everyday.

Switch 08-29-2007 06:11 PM

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Originally Posted by Kyranki (Post 1344465)
No they didn't. Jer made Mythic Legends bodies and it just looks similar. TONY-****ing-RIVERS made that body. Mythic Legends bodies were made differently. And besides the bodies Jer made for Mythic Legends were BASED OFF of bodies TONY RIVERS made in the first place for Metropolis a while ago.

Don't talk when you don't know what you're talking about.

it looks the same.

Hush, stan. hush.

Kyranki 08-29-2007 06:17 PM

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Originally Posted by xXziroXx (Post 1344475)
Shut up Stan.


Tony Rivers originally made that body for Icarus (who later changed bodies I believe), and gave Jer permission to use any edit of it if he wanted too. Jer ONLY had that single front view when he began working on the bodies.

Over a year ago, Sage stole our character sprites from temp folder on RC (he was a newb back then, all forgiven now anyways) and claimed it as his own. From there it gets a bit blurry.. Sage uploaded it on Eden, and the Crass began to make a ****load of sprites for it.

Sometime later, Sage and Lance edited the body and made sprites for it - this is the version we use on Mythic Legends at the moment.

But yes, Mythic Legends is the original owner of all body sprites made after that single front view posted in the first post - if anyone else made edits to it (except Tony, duh), they are not allowed to use it.

You can read more here: http://forums.graalonline.com/forums...ad.php?t=66422

Ok, all that bashing towards Ziro was unnecessary on my part despite what he says, I have a full chronological order of the images of Metropolis. And I've also had a chat with Jer.

http://forums.graalonline.com/forums...55&postcount=4

^ This was the original front view of the bodies that Tony Rivers gave to Jer that Jer made edits off of. Earlier in '06 I believe Sage and Lance stole the edits Jer made off of these and made sprites for Theed. So yes Ziro is correct on this part. Jer has also told me himself this is indeed the original view Tony Rivers made for Metropolis and not Icarus Zir. ;)

Inbetween, the original's which did indeed look like the bodies Mythic Legends ended up using, Tony made an edit of the originals posted above and created these:

http://forums.graalonline.com/forums...89&postcount=1

^ Those are an of the originals and they are the same edit that Mike! (PrinceOfKenshin) has posted here.

http://forums.graalonline.com/forums...8&postcount=37
http://forums.graalonline.com/forums/showpost.php?p=971851&postcount=20'

Couple more pics of the body with slight alterations to them from Tony but still resembling the original. This is all from 2004.

http://forums.graalonline.com/forums...19&postcount=1

Here you will see a revert back to the original bodies without the odd face alterations and an early version of tiles resembling Relic's tileset which Tony Rivers made.

http://forums.graalonline.com/forums...53&postcount=6

The same bodies again for Metropolis with several facial animations and a dog.

http://forums.graalonline.com/forums...1&postcount=19

http://forums.graalonline.com/forums...9&postcount=52

^ Another slight body comparison for the forums where Tony ended up sticking with the bodies on the left side instead of the right. Which in my opinion looked better.

http://forums.graalonline.com/forums...59&postcount=1

These final bodies were not for Metropolis but were for the project Graal: Rebirth which Tony Rivers started AFTER Metropolis failed. Graal: Rebirth eventually then turned into Relic. Which Novo was the scripter, blah blah blah...

Oi, Ziro I don't have a problem with you and you know that. But that "Shut up." was in no way necessary. Considering the fact we ARE talking about two different Time Era's. The last two years when Sage stole the bodies, put them on Eden and Crass made a crapload of sprites. Then when he and Lance used them on Theed and made some more sprites. And the Era of Metropolis and such which was 2004.

I'm talking way in the past. You're talking immediate future. No reason to argue is there? Let's say we stop the argument at that? I don't really want to argue with you pal. :O

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Originally Posted by Switch (Post 1344566)
it looks the same.

Hush, stan. hush.

And, instead of me cursing at you and getting angry, I'll have you see above and show you they are in fact NOT the same bodies. So try to learn something.

Horrified 08-29-2007 07:12 PM

Hmm, didn't Tony Rivers get arrested? o_O

Beautiful works though.

Kyranki 08-29-2007 07:19 PM

Tony Rivers has been arrested several times as far as I know (have heard). But he's a cool guy tho. :P

Sage_Shadowbane 08-29-2007 11:20 PM

Stans most recent post about the bodies is all correct, you are stupid if you try to argue and prove otherwise.

PrinceOfKenshin 08-30-2007 12:43 AM

So who do i talk to Tony rivers which from what i heard is in jail or what?

smirt362 08-30-2007 12:46 AM

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Originally Posted by Kyranki (Post 1344570)
Long Post

OCD much? ;)

Kyranki 08-30-2007 01:19 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Sage_Shadowbane (Post 1344643)
Stans most recent post about the bodies is all correct, you are stupid if you try to argue and prove otherwise.

Thanks for the backup there.

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Originally Posted by smirt362 (Post 1344658)
OCD much? ;)

I wasn't doing anything important. <3

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Originally Posted by PrinceOfKenshin (Post 1344657)
So who do i talk to Tony rivers which from what i heard is in jail or what?

You need to talk to Jer which of everyone he is probably the only player still around who has the rights to use that body considering that's the edit he made I believe which it doesn't even matter, because alot of the bodies Tony did that are known around Graal Jer has the rights too.

PrinceOfKenshin 08-30-2007 01:35 AM

Hmm Do you know a way for me to contact him?

Switch 08-30-2007 01:40 AM

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Originally Posted by PrinceOfKenshin (Post 1344675)
Hmm Do you know a way for me to contact him?

UN, usually

Unless you're talking about a different Jer that doesn't really play anymore, only develops...

Thrashsoul3 08-30-2007 02:32 AM

He originally made the bodies for Metropolis but he has floated the graphics around a lot after Metropolis died. They have showed up on alot of servers, a similar style on is on Relic.

MrAnonymous_P2P 08-30-2007 02:47 AM

Tony Rivers 4 President :D

Crono 08-30-2007 02:47 AM

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Originally Posted by Thrashsoul3 (Post 1344684)
Relic.

You do know he made the graphics for Relic right?

Kyranki 08-30-2007 02:49 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Thrashsoul3 (Post 1344684)
He originally made the bodies for Metropolis but he has floated the graphics around a lot after Metropolis died. They have showed up on alot of servers, a similar style on is on Relic.

Tony drew MOST of Relic.

xXziroXx 08-30-2007 12:43 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Kyranki (Post 1344673)
You need to talk to Jer which of everyone he is probably the only player still around who has the rights to use that body considering that's the edit he made I believe which it doesn't even matter, because alot of the bodies Tony did that are known around Graal Jer has the rights too.

Or me, since they are property of both me and Jer - something we agreed on a good while ago.

He can be contacted on AIM; jer has aim

Kyranki 08-30-2007 05:06 PM

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Originally Posted by xXziroXx (Post 1344730)
Or me, since they are property of both me and Jer - something we agreed on a good while ago.

He can be contacted on AIM; jer has aim

That's right. ;o

Thrashsoul3 08-30-2007 11:26 PM

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Originally Posted by Kyranki (Post 1344689)
Tony drew MOST of Relic.

Obviously, seeing as I watched him make all of it. It's still a similar style to the other body. Anyways the body in the original post is from Metropolis, he used lighter shading with the newer ones. :noob:

http://forums.graal2001.com/forums/s...ght=Metropolis

Kyranki 08-31-2007 12:56 AM

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Originally Posted by Thrashsoul3 (Post 1344803)
Obviously, seeing as I watched him make all of it. It's still a similar style to the other body. Anyways the body in the original post is from Metropolis, he used lighter shading with the newer ones. :noob:

http://forums.graal2001.com/forums/s...ght=Metropolis

You're late Thrash >:[ I posted the whole history + images already.

xXziroXx 08-31-2007 01:15 AM

I might as well add this...

NO!

You are NOT allowed to use or edit these bodies in any way.

Thrashsoul3 08-31-2007 01:22 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by xXziroXx (Post 1344822)
I might as well add this...

NO!

You are NOT allowed to use or edit these bodies in any way.

I'll do it right now. :)

Kyranki 08-31-2007 02:47 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by xXziroXx (Post 1344822)
I might as well add this...

NO!

You are NOT allowed to use or edit these bodies in any way.

Actually, before Mythic started using them Jer told me I was allowed to use the unfinished version (not the Mythic version, relax).

Horrified 08-31-2007 04:40 AM

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Originally Posted by Switch (Post 1344677)
UN, usually

Unless you're talking about a different Jer that doesn't really play anymore, only develops...

Dude, don't be dumb like the rest of the world

"Developing" and "Playing" are one and the same, unless you don't take joy in it.


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