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Crono 08-21-2007 10:52 PM

Hey guys I made a new gun
 
http://www.worlddominationtoys.com/i...upersoaker.jpg

Come on guys, this is the direction that Zone has been taking since Sayian first made the blue pistols. The Plasma Rifle (forgot who made it) was cool, the red/blue pistoles and rifles Sayian had made were fine too, but now it's just going too far.

Every gun on Zone looks like it comes from a toy store. Would be nice to see some skilled graphic artists work on some fresh designs.

:pluffy:

seanthien 08-21-2007 11:01 PM

erm, <<. Shouldnt this be in the other section of the zone forums? Gfx place?

DustyPorViva 08-21-2007 11:02 PM

lol.... too true.

dude2020 08-22-2007 01:34 AM

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Originally Posted by Gerami (Post 1342119)
The Plasma Rifle (forgot who made it)

Akoalin

pooper200000 08-22-2007 01:44 AM

Amen!

Tracker180 08-22-2007 02:45 AM

Hey guys, I made a gun to combat Crono's, it's like a plasma Mortar, it would be like bought or sumthing for like 10 times the bell's cost(old bell not new one) and only last a month it could kill the people even if it's not a direct hit like the one now does here it is

http://i208.photobucket.com/albums/b...180/images.jpg

Black_Wallstreet 08-22-2007 08:08 AM

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Originally Posted by Tracker180 (Post 1342179)
is this whole thread seriously about GFX?

666 post's?

Also, Crono does have a point. I could go to Toys 'R' Us and find the same gun's in the "Super Soaker' aisle. Zone need's to have more furutistic desighn's.

A gun like that, wouldn't be too bad if it was added.

bahamutstevetff 08-22-2007 11:56 AM

cronos a hoot ^^

kia345 08-23-2007 04:28 AM

Crono has a point, but it's not like this is anything new, it gets mentioned in most of the gfx threads.

Huwajux 08-26-2007 07:49 PM

Ok. I have deleted all the bad posts which started the flame war. I didn't want to close the thread because Crono is making a valid point, so no more comments telling the mods to close this thread.

I don't want another flame war/ego contest please. I think the people who it applies to know who they are.

Black_Wallstreet 08-26-2007 09:09 PM

Personally, the trend need's to change. Many of the guns look similar. Ever since the creation of the first plasma gun, people have seemed to alter the look's of what a futuristic design really looks like. A futuristic gun doesn't have to look futuristic, but it should have the general idea of being a futuristic gun. It could be a regular looking shotgun that shoot's out lightning bolt's. The idea is what counts.

seanthien 08-26-2007 09:21 PM

Bleh, but people come up with the ''zone style'' and its all confusing to me. >>

Black_Wallstreet 08-26-2007 09:43 PM

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Originally Posted by seanthien (Post 1343385)
Bleh, but people come up with the ''zone style'' and its all confusing to me. >>

Looking futuristic doesn't mean it is. An idea would serve better than a GFX. Be creative, I could make Pink Pistoles, but that doesn't mean it's futuristic.

seanthien 08-26-2007 10:05 PM

Ya pink pistols doesn't sound very futuristic, Uh.. How about a pistol, that shoots some sort of multi colored fireball? >> I haven't seen that before. I would try and make something like that, But i suck at gfx ><

dude2020 08-26-2007 10:30 PM

But but i want the pretty wetty pink pistols :(

Crono 08-27-2007 05:53 AM

It's not the time era of the gun that is the problem for me, it's the fact that they just look like supersoakers and everyone suddenly thinks that it's the proper style...

Examples:

http://forums.graalonline.com/forums...ad.php?t=76405
http://forums.graalonline.com/forums...ad.php?t=76425
A lot of http://forums.graalonline.com/forums...ad.php?t=75555
http://forums.graalonline.com/forums...ad.php?t=76188
http://forums.graalonline.com/forums...9&d=1187118758

Just look silly.

seanthien 08-27-2007 06:27 AM

Er, those first 2 are jokes, No offense.

Sayians graphics i was to lazeh to save it and then relook at it.

And that ''beam'' thing looked wierd, in a way now that i see that.

I think, its the ideas, Need to come up with a fresh new nice idea.

ANY idea works pretty much. I want something that shoots out something yellow (lightning thunder or something)

Black_Wallstreet 08-27-2007 08:48 AM

Alot of Sayian's works vary. Some of them look like supersoakers, but the majority of them are very nice and should be included into Zone.

Kirble 08-27-2007 04:02 PM

Hmm...I'm feeling in a making mood...someone tell me is there a flamethrower?

xAzerothx 08-27-2007 04:09 PM

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Originally Posted by Kirble (Post 1343734)
Hmm...I'm feeling in a making mood...someone tell me is there a flamethrower?

Yes there is.

Crono 08-27-2007 04:18 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Kirble (Post 1343734)
Hmm...I'm feeling in a making mood...someone tell me is there a flamethrower?

Yeah but maybe there can be a plasma version or something just for fun?

Kirble 08-27-2007 04:43 PM

Hmm, actually, I'ma make a ghostbusters style "goo-gun". :D

Can someone give me some images of thier players standing in all 4 directions?

I only have playerworld subscription x.x

Switch 08-27-2007 05:07 PM

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Originally Posted by Gerami (Post 1342119)

I just realized... The one on the bottom left (not the matches but the oil) looks kinda similar to the chainsaw IMM tilt your head to the right :D

Quote:

:pluffy:
PLUFFY TO DA MAX! :pluffy:

seanthien 08-27-2007 07:36 PM

There's a goo gun >> Well its slime. I was thinking, if someone recolored the flame thrower and edited it a little, You can make it a new gun and make it shoot thunder/lightning o:

SayianOozaru 08-27-2007 11:19 PM

Lemme post all the graphics I've done for Zone (weapons only), and you guys can decide which ones look like "super soakers". Ok?

I will only include the weapons that I know are being worked on, in Zone Debug, or are already in game. The ones I'm unsure of will be left out. (the ones on RC)

*Note; this will cause me to post a few times, considering I'm only allowed 10 images a post...

Blue Pistole
http://img67.imageshack.us/img67/562...pistolesw4.gif
Red Pistole
http://img205.imageshack.us/img205/7...pistolefq0.gif
Acid Rifle
http://img508.imageshack.us/img508/4...idrifleqj6.png
Alphite Rifle
http://img508.imageshack.us/img508/7...terifleah6.png
Assault Pistol
http://img508.imageshack.us/img508/6...tpistoltx6.png
Blaster
http://img205.imageshack.us/img205/5...blasterzq7.png
Candy Reapers
http://img205.imageshack.us/img205/8...reaperseb0.png
Carrot
http://img123.imageshack.us/img123/4...ncarrotvc9.png
Dart Gun
http://img102.imageshack.us/img102/2...dartgunhw3.png
Double Shot
http://img515.imageshack.us/img515/8...bleshotwx6.png

SayianOozaru 08-27-2007 11:28 PM

And some more...

Enranged Rifle
http://img514.imageshack.us/img514/4...edrifleub6.png
Flame Bomb
http://img408.imageshack.us/img408/7...amebombre8.png
Ghost Gun
http://img408.imageshack.us/img408/8...hostguneg9.png
GAssault Rifle (that's the file name)
http://img408.imageshack.us/img408/3...ultriflsv2.png
Heavy Laser
http://img205.imageshack.us/img205/5...vylaserfo6.png
Ice Pistol
http://img514.imageshack.us/img514/5...epistolee0.png
Lightning Pistol
http://img249.imageshack.us/img249/3...ngpistooh3.png
Love Rifle
http://img266.imageshack.us/img266/5...veriflexb6.png
Magnum
http://img205.imageshack.us/img205/1...nmagnumay2.png
Metallic Rifle
http://img514.imageshack.us/img514/5...icrifledh1.png

SayianOozaru 08-27-2007 11:35 PM

And some more...

Photon Pistol
http://img205.imageshack.us/img205/4...npistolnl4.png
Sci Fi Pistol
http://img53.imageshack.us/img53/716...ipistolpz3.png
ChainSaw
http://img523.imageshack.us/img523/9...hainsawtj8.png
Grenade Launcher
http://img205.imageshack.us/img205/2...elaunchly3.gif
KV9
http://img254.imageshack.us/img254/8...aponkv9fm0.gif
Photon Cannon
http://img254.imageshack.us/img254/2...ncannonun3.gif
Reapers
http://img266.imageshack.us/img266/1...reapersbm0.png
Rocket Launcher
http://img297.imageshack.us/img297/3...auncherzu7.gif
Storm Rifle
http://img266.imageshack.us/img266/8...rmrifleni4.gif

If you guys would like to see the ~30 others that I'm unsure of, so that you can judge them aswell, lemme know. :cool:

Crono 08-27-2007 11:41 PM

Blue Pistole, Red Pistole, Ghost Gun, Ice Pistol, Lightning Pistol, Metallic Rifle, Photon Pistol, Photon Cannon, Blue Rifle, and Red Rifle are supersoakers.

Acid Rifle, Blaster Rifle, and Enranged Rifle are using the bubbly style that I've been seeing lately but not quite supersoakers.

I don't care when you make it, it's your own style and I think it looks alright when you do it. But everyone nowadays is thinking that its how Zone guns should look when infact it's just been way overdone. A few guns looking like that? Sure, but not every single new wave of updates. Why? Because it really isn't so great and looks like a watergun (thus supersoaker, due to the weird designs...refer to the picture I posted on the first page).

p.s i stil luv u sayian

SayianOozaru 08-27-2007 11:44 PM

Actually my "style" kept getting complaints about "it doesn't fit zone", from Stefan...

And wait a minute, if photon cannon looks like a super soaker to you, I want to see what swedens super soakers look like O_O

Crono 08-27-2007 11:47 PM

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You're telling me this doesn't resemble the shape and sometimes colors of some of the guns?

Also, I'm referring to players not Stefan.

SayianOozaru 08-27-2007 11:50 PM

That doesn't look anything like the photon cannon x_x

And it has to meet Stefans "requirements"...So I had to make it "Zone Style"... O_o?

seanthien 08-28-2007 04:07 AM

Er i think it does. O.o Omg, GIVE ME TAH NEW PISTOLS WTF. ice pistols mainly. pl0x.

Black_Wallstreet 08-28-2007 04:19 AM

Crono, if you want, we can get rid of all of Sayian's work and go back to the 10-15 gun's we had before he started making gun's. :rolleyes:

DustyPorViva 08-28-2007 04:34 AM

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Originally Posted by Black_Wallstreet (Post 1344082)
Crono, if you want, we can get rid of all of Sayian's work and go back to the 10-15 gun's we had before he started making gun's. :rolleyes:

I think you must have read over Crono's post, here, let me help you:
Quote:

Originally Posted by Gerami (Post 1343927)
I don't care when you make it, it's your own style and I think it looks alright when you do it. But everyone nowadays is thinking that its how Zone guns should look when infact it's just been way overdone.

See what he said there? I think you're missing the fact that all he's saying is it's become too much of a trend and people need to step back and think of something new.

I think the problem is, Zone and Super soaker are both looking for the same thing. Futuristic weapons. Super Soaker's are designed to look futuristic, cool, high-tech, and Zone's are supposed to be futuristic, cool, high-tech. It just seems we're going down the same road. Only way to fix this is to think of futuristic weapons completely original in design and idea(not saying you stole the idea, just saying what would futuristic weapons look like if they didn't look like super soakers?).

Black_Wallstreet 08-28-2007 06:11 AM

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Originally Posted by DustyPorViva (Post 1344083)
I think you must have read over Crono's post, here, let me help you:

See what he said there? I think you're missing the fact that all he's saying is it's become too much of a trend and people need to step back and think of something new.

I think the problem is, Zone and Super soaker are both looking for the same thing. Futuristic weapons. Super Soaker's are designed to look futuristic, cool, high-tech, and Zone's are supposed to be futuristic, cool, high-tech. It just seems we're going down the same road. Only way to fix this is to think of futuristic weapons completely original in design and idea(not saying you stole the idea, just saying what would futuristic weapons look like if they didn't look like super soakers?).

I know what he said. I believe I don't need to hear it from you, ok?

Futuristic weapon's do not mean big clunky looking gun's. A futuristic weapon can be anything that is unique, and different looking.

Like these:

DustyPorViva 08-28-2007 06:24 AM

Well it certainly didn't sound like you read what he said, from your obvious post. He supports Saiyan's work, why would he want to remove all of his guns? Your sarcastic comment didn't quite show that you understood his position. And yet still, your post seems to make no sense. Why are you posting that? Did I ever say otherwise?

Black_Wallstreet 08-28-2007 07:08 AM

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Originally Posted by DustyPorViva (Post 1344097)
Well it certainly didn't sound like you read what he said, from your obvious post. He supports Saiyan's work, why would he want to remove all of his guns? Your sarcastic comment didn't quite show that you understood his position. And yet still, your post seems to make no sense. Why are you posting that? Did I ever say otherwise?

The whole topic is about gun's that look like "Super Soakers", some people stated that gun's like Photon Cannon (Which Sayian made), looked like "Super Soakers". Crono, as well as a few others stated that they wanted this trend to change, which is why I stated my comment. :noob:

DustyPorViva 08-28-2007 07:37 AM

No. They wanted the TREND to change. They didn't want them removed. He stated himself he didn't mind Saiyan doing, but he just hopes it stopped. Which is why I quoted his post and it still didn't do any good, did it?

Crono 08-28-2007 08:00 AM

Thanks Dusty, Zone players have historically been slow.

Black_Wallstreet 08-28-2007 08:16 AM

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Originally Posted by DustyPorViva (Post 1344101)
No. They wanted the TREND to change. They didn't want them removed. He stated himself he didn't mind Saiyan doing, but he just hopes it stopped. Which is why I quoted his post and it still didn't do any good, did it?

Stop acting like im dumb or something. I understood the post, do you understand that? I said that sarcastically, if you don't know the meaning of it, check it up. Crono complained about Sayian's work.

Quote:

Every gun on Zone looks like it comes from a toy store. Would be nice to see some skilled graphic artists work on some fresh designs.
Quote:

Blue Pistole, Red Pistole, Ghost Gun, Ice Pistol, Lightning Pistol, Metallic Rifle, Photon Pistol, Photon Cannon, Blue Rifle, and Red Rifle are supersoakers.
I believe he stated that he wanted the trend to change, concluding that he did not want any of Sayian's works (posted above) that looked like "Super Soakers" added.

Jin for the win.


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