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rE_MiX577 07-08-2007 12:08 AM

Zodiac - Another Dying Server.
 
Jerret and Puppin, Creators of Zodiac have been fired unfairly, by the PRA (Player Relations Admin), and the rent-a-manager Calani.

Jerret was supposedly fired for "talking with Yen". Both of them made everything in the server from scratch, Yen managed to help on skills and a few other things.

The PRA submitted hundreds of support tickets trying to fire Calani, for being unactive while he himself was highly unactive. Then he cried to Calani to get Jerret fired, because he nerfed his class and was talking with Yen.

Basically the PRA lied his way to the top and suceeded.

If you look at the serverlist now, it's Unholy Nation, Era, Delteria, Val, N-Pulse then Zodiac... we have 24 players, and No there is no reset or the NPC server isn't down.


the Manager (Frotter, PRA) logs on once a day (if any) for 8-13 minutes, then logs off. All the dev staff have quit, only a few PRs and 1 or 2 unactive GATs remain.


I don't want to see Zodiac die. Something needs to be done, and the globals most definetley need to listen to another side of the story.

Calani and Frotter have done nothing for Zodiac but manipulate power.

Jerret and Puppin, day by day are losing intrest in the server they created, the globals need to get their priorities straight and save this dying server.

coreys 07-08-2007 12:34 AM

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Originally Posted by rE_MiX577 (Post 1326647)
I don't want to see Zodiac die.

I do ;(

Oh, btw, Yen did more than "help on skills and a few other things"...as I recall he pretty much made the whole server, script-wise. And, as I remember, Jerret and Puppin weren't exactly great people themselves. And if a server can sustain itself, you can't blame a manager for being inactive.

This PRA seems a bit of a douche, though.

Codein 07-08-2007 12:50 AM

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Originally Posted by coreys (Post 1326661)
I do ;(

Oh, btw, Yen did more than "help on skills and a few other things"...as I recall he pretty much made the whole server, script-wise. And, as I remember, Jerret and Puppin weren't exactly great people themselves. And if a server can sustain itself, you can't blame a manager for being inactive.

This PRA seems a bit of a douche, though.

Damn right.

For some reason, I get the picture of Randall from Recess in my head >_>

coreys 07-08-2007 01:19 AM

The name doesn't ring a bell. I never watched that crappy show. lol

Moondeath_2 07-08-2007 01:53 AM

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Originally Posted by coreys (Post 1326661)
I do ;(
Oh, btw, Yen did more than "help on skills and a few other things"...as I recall he pretty much made the whole server, script-wise. And, as I remember, Jerret and Puppin weren't exactly great people themselves. And if a server can sustain itself, you can't blame a manager for being inactive.

This PRA seems a bit of a douche, though.

Me too, I'd rather see Maloria do that job rather people being fired and the developement of the server stop. :D

Codein 07-08-2007 02:38 AM

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Originally Posted by coreys (Post 1326677)
The name doesn't ring a bell. I never watched that crappy show. lol

Bah, you don't know what you're talking about. If only dinner time (or recess as you may call it) was like that...

TalonShriner 07-08-2007 05:31 AM

ahhh... drama drama drama... :(

MKxTortoise 07-08-2007 05:55 AM

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If you look at the serverlist now, it's Unholy Nation, Era, Delteria
Should've posted this thread yesterday ;)

coreys 07-08-2007 06:06 AM

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Originally Posted by TalonShriner (Post 1326741)
ahhh... drama drama drama... :(

My thoughts exactly. Not just with Graal either, with life...it's sad.
But my bet is this'll all blow over. Either Zodiac will die or it won't. In the end it won't exactly effect our lives too much...at least it shouldn't.

Inverness 07-08-2007 08:30 AM

If it does affect your life then get off of The Internet before you kill yourself.

Rufus 07-08-2007 04:12 PM

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Originally Posted by coreys (Post 1326661)
This PRA seems a bit of a douche, though.

He is completely. The guy was working with the stuff that I'd done, because even though I wasn't PR Admin I had to repair it as no one else would. All values I set for the staff were lost when I left and the Player Relations team then split off into four staff teams; Player Relations, FAQ, Q&A, and Support. Yes, they had 4 different staff teams (and still do I believe) for one job.

Now this guy is the manager? Heh.

kenyonandelliot 07-08-2007 05:12 PM

Simple solution.. Let me take over

Twinny 07-08-2007 05:37 PM

Zodiac has Novo now as lead developer. This practically ensures that Zodiac is going to take off ^^.

WwingG 07-08-2007 09:25 PM

It was inevitable im surprised it lasted as long as it did O_o.

TheJames 07-08-2007 09:27 PM

Zodiac isn't really noob friendly. You walk outside and get blasted to death. I dont enjoy it, and its like GK. Where the hell are the dungeouns and ways to make cash??

WwingG 07-08-2007 09:28 PM

Yen is getting manager back lolol

DutchGuy 07-08-2007 11:04 PM

zodiacs staff is a great example of how it goes on every server.

papajchris 07-09-2007 04:35 AM

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Originally Posted by WwingG (Post 1326918)
Yen is getting manager back lolol

I am so sick of this. Do not make up things. Get your facts straight.

ChRiSrW123 (10:27:23 PM): Who by chance is getting zodiac?
Bell Darkmane (10:28:41 PM): I think Calani has turned it over to Novo and Frotter for now. Not sure though if thats how it will stay
ChRiSrW123 (10:28:59 PM): Oh i heard Yen was getting it
Bell Darkmane (10:29:33 PM): lots of rumors running around

Twinny 07-14-2007 03:36 PM

Novo just quit as head dev. Zodiac is without developers (exact RapidWolve but he is limited to buggery due to his past). The doomsayers were probably right.

Inverness 07-14-2007 03:45 PM

Hurray for Yen, he kicks ass, among other things.

Twinny 07-14-2007 03:50 PM

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Originally Posted by Inverness (Post 1330013)
Hurray for Yen, he kicks ass, among other things.

If Stefan allows him back on then yes: Zodiac would probably right itself very quickly. I don't see this happening though.

Inverness 07-14-2007 04:07 PM

Lets go blow up the pizza shop, that will force him to act.

Twinny 07-14-2007 04:16 PM

Given the fact what Yen did do and has recently done, I can't see it happening.

Inverness 07-14-2007 04:34 PM

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Originally Posted by Twinny (Post 1330033)
Given the fact what Yen did do and has recently done, I can't see it happening.

If he didn't do anything malicious I so no reason why not. Especially considering he practically built the place.

Twinny 07-14-2007 04:43 PM

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Originally Posted by Inverness (Post 1330040)
If he didn't do anything malicious I so no reason why not. Especially considering he practically built the place.

He sure did (and still does) threaten it though :\

papajchris 07-14-2007 05:49 PM

Well zodiac is going down anyway... Mine as well have someone attempt to fix it So graal can make more money

Inverness 07-14-2007 06:15 PM

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Originally Posted by Twinny (Post 1330046)
He sure did (and still does) threaten it though :\

Do you consider the sheer amount of time and work he put into it?

Twinny 07-14-2007 06:20 PM

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Originally Posted by Inverness (Post 1330103)
Do you consider the sheer amount of time and work he put into it?

Every single damn player told me all the damn time. I know. I just don't think it will happen.

Crono 07-14-2007 06:51 PM

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Originally Posted by Inverness (Post 1330103)
Do you consider the sheer amount of time and work he put into it?

And?

Rapidwolve 07-14-2007 07:20 PM

If Yen doesn't come back, I vote Skyld for manager, he already has full Zodiac support. hehe

Twinny 07-14-2007 07:25 PM

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Originally Posted by Rapidwolve (Post 1330134)
If Yen doesn't come back, I vote Skyld for manager, he already has full Zodiac support. hehe

I love it. I jump on, praise Skyld (no-one knew who he was) and now everyone is ready to support him :D

Crono 07-14-2007 08:13 PM

Zodiac isn't dying kids, it's the same as it has been for a while now.

Switch 07-14-2007 08:15 PM

I just asked Yen if he was getting Zodiac back... :
Quote:

Originally Posted by Yen & Me on AIM
Switch (2:06:47 PM): o.O
Switch (2:06:47 PM): http://forums.graal2001.com/forums/s...t=75167&page=2
Switch (2:06:52 PM): Look at first pos
Switch (2:06:53 PM): post*
Yen (2:06:57 PM): Yeah
Yen (2:06:59 PM): I've read that topic
Yen (2:07:03 PM): I'm not, yet

Okay now everyone shush ^^
(also I didn't give our real screen name 'cause we don't want people spamming us >_<)

Darlene159 07-14-2007 08:30 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by papajchris (Post 1330087)
Well zodiac is going down anyway... Mine as well have someone attempt to fix it So graal can make more money

I seriously doubt that Zodiac is going down any time soon. It is more then capable of holding its own for now (as far as content). I am sure things will be figured out soon.

Twinny 07-14-2007 08:32 PM

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Originally Posted by Darlene159 (Post 1330172)
I seriously doubt that Zodiac is going down any time soon. It is more then capable of holding its own for now (as far as content). I am sure things will be figured out soon.

Well... it's content had been stationary for a while. Now it just can't go anywhere. The players recognize this fact. Unless Stefan steps in and elects new staff peeps, it's going to get worse and worse.

Level 60s already complain about a lack of things to do after all...

Darlene159 07-14-2007 08:33 PM

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Originally Posted by Twinny (Post 1330175)
Well... it's content had been stationary for a while. Now it just can't go anywhere. The players recognize this fact. Unless Stefan steps in and elects new staff peeps, it's going to get worse and worse.

Level 60s already complain about a lack of things to do after all...

I understand that. Hopefully something will be worked out soon. Hopefully Novo will return at least.

Twinny 07-14-2007 08:37 PM

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Originally Posted by Darlene159 (Post 1330176)
I understand that. Hopefully something will be worked out soon. Hopefully Novo will return at least.

I talked to him on AIM...he's pretty adamant about it. If RapidWolve gets full dev rights then maybe. This may be hard considering what happened last time.

Switch 07-14-2007 09:48 PM

I never really cared for Zodiac after it went Classic. They now make us buy skills and we don't get money from killing monsters, but rather selling the parts for like, 1g a piece. I don't care too much if it goes down UNLESS they change back to how it was before the Classic change (and reset for that matter ;D)
It's harder to level now, too.

xXziroXx 07-15-2007 05:25 AM

Yen allowed back? HAH! Dont get your hopes up.

Even during the short amount of time I worked on Zodiac, Yen tried his very best to bring the server down. He even bribed current staff with USD (won't mention any names) to spawn and hand out tons of items.

AznLaoGuy 07-15-2007 03:00 PM

"Skyld for Zodiac manager." AHAHAHAHAHAH but seriously no don't do it


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