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konidias 03-08-2007 06:30 AM

Help me with hair!
 
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I'm drawing this picture and I want to get a really nice hair effect to match the image... it's gonna be like shiny blonde but I need to find a really nice way of doing a semi-detailed hair effect... like tons of hair strands with different shades of color and clarity... I wish I had an example of the kind of hair I want but it's basically like that uber detailed anime hair. (if you know what I'm talking about)

Also some critiques would be nice. Before anyone says anything, I don't plan to keep the dark black outline around the face or on the hair. =P

smirt362 03-08-2007 06:32 AM

Like this?
Its just like pixel art...but you get to use more colors.

Draenin 03-08-2007 06:34 AM

Lighten / Darken tool if you're lazy. Layering / Alpha Blending if you're patient.

konidias 03-08-2007 06:44 AM

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Originally Posted by smirt362 (Post 1286187)
Like this?
Its just like pixel art...but you get to use more colors.

Yeah something like that... but does anyone have any idea how to go about this using photoshop? I mean... do you just sit there and draw thousands of lines or what? >_<

There's gotta be some shortcuts or a method of doing this...

smirt362 03-08-2007 06:45 AM

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Originally Posted by konidias (Post 1286196)
Yeah something like that... but does anyone have any idea how to go about this using photoshop? I mean... do you just sit there and draw thousands of lines or what? >_<

There's gotta be some shortcuts or a method of doing this...

Quality art has no shortcuts ^^

konidias 03-08-2007 06:47 AM

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Originally Posted by smirt362 (Post 1286197)
Quality art has no shortcuts ^^

lol... yeah but I mean... even a tutorial on it would be nice... should I start with a dark base and do light lines? Light base and draw the dark lines? Draw every color on a different layer? Use opacity for layers? I'd like to learn how to do this as easy as possible... Any tips at all would be helpful.

smirt362 03-08-2007 06:48 AM

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Originally Posted by konidias (Post 1286199)
lol... yeah but I mean... even a tutorial on it would be nice... should I start with a dark base and do light lines? Light base and draw the dark lines? Draw every color on a different layer? Use opacity for layers? I'd like to learn how to do this as easy as possible... Any tips at all would be helpful.

Found a link...I'll AIM it to you.

Crono 03-08-2007 11:18 AM

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i had this in mind but that other example above is better

konidias 03-08-2007 12:10 PM

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Well I finished it. I'm happy enough with it. I still have a lot to learn with photoshop... It's freaking hard for me to do anything with just a mouse... I wish I had a tablet PC. :p

I sort of rushed after a while because it is seriously way too tedious to sit there and draw lines of hair. But I like the end result anyway... Oh well.

Chandler 03-08-2007 12:17 PM

That's very good. I really like it! :D

Crono 03-08-2007 12:24 PM

woah that looks awesome koni

Demisis_P2P 03-08-2007 12:41 PM

Very nice :D
Makes me think of Alice from Alice in Wonderland.
Except, her chin is kind of abrupt :P

SayianOozaru 03-08-2007 01:45 PM

her face looks a little to "long" or something...but i really like the shading, and the outlines on everything except the face :D

Crow 03-08-2007 04:15 PM

Nose and mouth are a little bit too low. Otherwise its nice.

smirt362 03-08-2007 04:15 PM

Only a couple of things..her body seems to disappear on the left side.
She looks a little blurry...or maybe it's because I just woke up.

Stephen 03-08-2007 04:20 PM

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Originally Posted by konidias (Post 1286239)
Well I finished it. I'm happy enough with it. I still have a lot to learn with photoshop... It's freaking hard for me to do anything with just a mouse... I wish I had a tablet PC. :p

I sort of rushed after a while because it is seriously way too tedious to sit there and draw lines of hair. But I like the end result anyway... Oh well.

Not bad, but you could have done that as vector art and achieved the same visuals... only with vector art you could resize it indefinitely, it'd be a smaller file, and you'd sleep better at night knowing you're almost as cool as I am. :cool:

SayianOozaru 03-08-2007 05:37 PM

He still would toss and turn for not being as cool as you are though, Stephen. ;)

*****.

Stephen 03-08-2007 05:54 PM

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Originally Posted by SayianOozaru (Post 1286289)
He still would toss and turn for not being as cool as you are though, Stephen. ;)

*****.

I'm sorry to hear that you're suffering from this afflction; appearantly it's quite common.

contiga 03-08-2007 09:16 PM

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Originally Posted by konidias (Post 1286239)
Well I finished it. I'm happy enough with it. I still have a lot to learn with photoshop... It's freaking hard for me to do anything with just a mouse... I wish I had a tablet PC. :p

I sort of rushed after a while because it is seriously way too tedious to sit there and draw lines of hair. But I like the end result anyway... Oh well.



I know who that is! >_<

Zideruic 03-08-2007 10:39 PM

hot momma

konidias 03-09-2007 12:21 AM

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Originally Posted by Stephen (Post 1286276)
Not bad, but you could have done that as vector art and achieved the same visuals... only with vector art you could resize it indefinitely, it'd be a smaller file, and you'd sleep better at night knowing you're almost as cool as I am. :cool:

I'm not really aware of the difference. What makes something vector art?

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Originally Posted by contiga (Post 1286381)
I know who that is! >_<

;)

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Originally Posted by Zideruic (Post 1286427)
hot momma

I know, right? :)

Stephen 03-09-2007 12:26 AM

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Originally Posted by konidias (Post 1286515)
I'm not really aware of the difference. What makes something vector art?

Generally speaking - it's the use of vectors rather than raster images. :asleep:

Devil 03-09-2007 12:54 AM

Where are the cheek bones? The face is undefined.

konidias 03-09-2007 01:05 AM

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Originally Posted by Devil (Post 1286533)
Where are the cheek bones? The face is undefined.

Uhhh, not all women have prominent cheek bones...

Stephen 03-09-2007 01:08 AM

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Originally Posted by Devil (Post 1286533)
Where are the cheek bones? The face is undefined.

Looks find to me, boyo.

Googi 03-09-2007 01:11 AM

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hay guyz 4 the makign of hair u just folow this tutorila

Gambet 03-09-2007 01:12 AM

Yeah, it was only funny the first time.

Stephen 03-09-2007 01:15 AM

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Originally Posted by Gambet (Post 1286541)
Yeah, it was only funny the first time.

I agree. :\

Googi 03-09-2007 01:26 AM

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Originally Posted by Gambet (Post 1286541)
Yeah, it was only funny the first time.

For the making of funny posts, you just follow this tutorial.

Stephen 03-09-2007 01:31 AM

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Originally Posted by Googi (Post 1286544)
For the making of funny posts, you just follow this tutorial.

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v4...ltutorial2.png

For intentional repetitive unfunny I'm tempted to give you an infraction under the guise of "linked images" rather than attached images.

Crono 03-09-2007 01:35 AM

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Originally Posted by Stephen (Post 1286546)
For intentional repetitive unfunny I'm tempted to give you an infraction under the guise of "linked images" rather than attached images.

im sorry, discussing infractions = illegal ;)

Googi 03-09-2007 01:37 AM

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Originally Posted by Stephen (Post 1286546)
For intentional repetitive unfunny I'm tempted to give you an infraction under the guise of "linked images" rather than attached images.

This may call for another tutorial.

Stephen 03-09-2007 02:13 AM

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Originally Posted by Gerami (Post 1286547)
im sorry, discussing infractions = illegal ;)

We're only discussing fictional infractions... for now... !pissed!

James 03-09-2007 02:31 AM

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Originally Posted by Crow (Post 1286272)
Nose and mouth are a little bit too low. Otherwise its nice.

Kind of similar to Christina Ricci's forehead. ;)

konidias 03-09-2007 03:30 AM

The camera angle is above and slightly angled down, which is why the mouth and nose seem lower.

DustyPorViva 03-09-2007 03:34 AM

I think it might need some kind of, even a very subtle, shading of the nose bridge. The huge blank area there is a little distracting.

SayianOozaru 03-09-2007 08:25 AM

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Originally Posted by Crono
im sorry, discussing infractions = illegal

He was just thinking outloud. ;)

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Originally Posted by DustyPorViva
I think it might need some kind of, even a very subtle, shading of the nose bridge. The huge blank area there is a little distracting.

I noticed that to. Didn't want to say anything though, because I didn't feel like getting into an arguement over something stupid, and end up getting myself bant again ^^

contiga 03-09-2007 12:15 PM

That really looks like.. 'her' ^^

Tom 03-09-2007 04:40 PM

really nice work dude, one really simple thing to change. Either the background or the inner aprt of the ribbon. They are very similer and seem as though they are the same thing.

But still, mega nice


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