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Triple_Darkness 12-24-2006 04:21 PM

ShotGun vs Dual Shotgun
 
Who do you think would win?

i'd prefer dual over Old anytime becuase of it's sound/Damage/Freeze time

pooper200000 12-24-2006 04:36 PM

I killed a few and got very close witha shotgun to killing some.... so double isn't that much better if I can do it with one instead of 2

Huwajux 12-24-2006 06:06 PM

I'd go for normal. 1 more ammo clip helps a lot. :P

bahamutstevetff 12-24-2006 09:47 PM

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Originally Posted by Huwajux (Post 1256910)
I'd go for normal. 1 more ammo clip helps a lot. :P

single equip em then, dingus.

Sulukra 12-24-2006 11:17 PM

Neither of them really seem that good to me.

Huwajux 12-25-2006 12:35 AM

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Originally Posted by bahamutstevetff (Post 1257017)
single equip em then, dingus.

But they shoot less bullets alone.

bahamutstevetff 12-25-2006 03:48 PM

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Originally Posted by Huwajux (Post 1257097)
But they shoot less bullets alone.

i take that back also, a full hit from a single duallaves a p2p with 60 hp, a nirmal shot leaves a p2p with 44hp

Crono 12-25-2006 05:44 PM

Uh, the dual shotguns together have a total damage of 80. x.x

UnknownMasterMind 12-26-2006 08:57 PM

All I got to say is Appirces Own All! xD It is true, they are the most balanced guns I have ever seen, 4 Bullets do 38, can kill someone in the same amount of hits as Appripers, and shoot more bullets. The Double Shotguns suck! They shoot once and have to reload, I have killed so many Noobs using Double Shotguns.So to me, I Say Appirces Own All! xD

Sincerely,
Sparta Dark

Crono 12-26-2006 09:16 PM

how are appirces the most balanced? :/

pooper200000 12-26-2006 09:47 PM

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Originally Posted by UnknownMasterMind (Post 1257590)
All I got to say is Appirces Own All! xD It is true, they are the most balanced guns I have ever seen, 4 Bullets do 38, can kill someone in the same amount of hits as Appripers, and shoot more bullets. The Double Shotguns suck! They shoot once and have to reload, I have killed so many Noobs using Double Shotguns.So to me, I Say Appirces Own All! xD

Sincerely,
Sparta Dark

apprices are balnced
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Originally Posted by Gerami (Post 1257594)
how are appirces the most balanced? :/

if you want a balanced gun use the chaingun!

seanthien 12-26-2006 10:29 PM

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Originally Posted by Gerami (Post 1257594)
how are appirces the most balanced? :/

Crono Appieces are slow dont hit alot and fair =\ Name one wep thats slwo and more balanced then that.

if you want a balanced gun use the chaingun![/QUOTE]

xDDD

Draenin 12-26-2006 10:32 PM

Dual shotguns are pretty ridiculous. Shotguns are supposed to be for one-shotting people, so they naturally have a high delay time. However, dual shotguns have an even greater change of doing so, and I don't notice that much of a delay difference. Another really important factor to consider is the spread, which is crazy when dual wielding.

Zulu15 12-26-2006 10:44 PM

The problem with designing guns for a game where 'Height' dosen't matter and the bullets are visible, is that shotgun type guns can do an area sweep, that is, cover the entire area with no hope of escape from 'All' the bullets. Compare Zone to a 3D FPS, there you have to aim exatcly at the person, since the bullets arrive there practicaly the momment you shoot them and you have to consider X,Y and Z axis's. In Zone you shoot in the persons general direction many times, especialy with spread shots, with a chance of atleast hitting once.

Sorry, I know my sentence structure sorta sucks but I lost interest halfway through.

Huwajux 12-26-2006 11:43 PM

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Originally Posted by pooper200000 (Post 1257597)
if you want a balanced gun use the chaingun!

That made me lol irl.

pooper200000 12-26-2006 11:45 PM

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Originally Posted by Huwajux (Post 1257641)
That made me lol irl.

hey its worth a try right?:D

Crono 12-27-2006 12:36 AM

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Originally Posted by seanthien (Post 1257614)
Crono Appieces are slow dont hit alot and fair =\ Name one wep thats slwo and more balanced then that.

if you want a balanced gun use the chaingun!

xDDD[/QUOTE]

Do you know what balanced means?

Appirces are slightly overpowered but that's ok, because it's shadowed by the lame-ness of Aprippers and such.

seanthien 12-27-2006 01:10 AM

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Originally Posted by Gerami (Post 1257658)
xDDD

Do you know what balanced means?

Appirces are slightly overpowered but that's ok, because it's shadowed by the lame-ness of Aprippers and such.[/QUOTE]

Haha ;-; I feel stupid >.< I messed updeal with it :((. And how are apps over powered!!?!?!? So if apps are over powered whats fair? Gravitron? :O

MisterMastermind 12-27-2006 01:40 AM

I'd love to see somebody shoot one shotgun in each arm using only one arm, and have them do that much power without breaking their shoulders.

Crono 12-27-2006 01:42 AM

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Originally Posted by MisterMastermind (Post 1257706)
I'd love to see somebody shoot one shotgun in each arm using only one arm, and have them do that much power without breaking their shoulders.

They did it for the tomb raider boss!

MisterMastermind 12-27-2006 01:45 AM

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Originally Posted by Gerami (Post 1257708)
They did it for the tomb raider boss!

Well angelina jolie used her bouncy breasts to somehow shield the impact.

seanthien 12-27-2006 01:48 AM

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Originally Posted by Gerami (Post 1257708)
They did it for the tomb raider boss!

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Originally Posted by MisterMastermind (Post 1257711)
Well angelina jolie used her bouncy breasts to somehow shield the impact.

***** How did it turn into this? xDD

Crono 12-27-2006 01:55 AM

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Originally Posted by MisterMastermind (Post 1257711)
Well angelina jolie used her bouncy breasts to somehow shield the impact.

im talking about the game

Quote:

***** How did it turn into this? xDD
I came up with the idea of dual shotguns that use a uh "click reload" from tomb raider II

seanthien 12-27-2006 07:28 PM

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Originally Posted by Gerami (Post 1257719)
im talking about the game



I came up with the idea of dual shotguns that use a uh "click reload" from tomb raider II

xD

anubis_wing 12-28-2006 04:13 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by UnknownMasterMind (Post 1257590)
All I got to say is Appirces Own All! xD It is true, they are the most balanced guns I have ever seen, 4 Bullets do 38, can kill someone in the same amount of hits as Appripers, and shoot more bullets. The Double Shotguns suck! They shoot once and have to reload, I have killed so many Noobs using Double Shotguns.So to me, I Say Appirces Own All! xD

Sincerely,
Sparta Dark

I think it's only 36 damage for 4.

someonesomewhere 12-28-2006 10:27 PM

Appirces are about as balanced as a scale holding a feather in one end and a rock in the other.

Oh, and I forgot to mention, this is simply a matter of opinion, so no one is "right" and no one is "wrong."

seanthien 12-28-2006 10:29 PM

Yeh cor what is a ''balanced'' wep?

Crono 12-28-2006 10:30 PM

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Originally Posted by someonesomewhere (Post 1258190)

Oh, and I forgot to mention, this is simply a matter of opinion, so no one is "right" and no one is "wrong."

Except me. :D

someonesomewhere 12-28-2006 10:32 PM

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Originally Posted by seanthien (Post 1258193)
Yeh cor what is a ''balanced'' wep?

Definately not any of the pistols, I'll say that much.

pooper200000 12-29-2006 12:04 AM

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Originally Posted by someonesomewhere (Post 1258195)
Definately not any of the pistols, I'll say that much.

is it the chaingun? I know it is. It is a very well balanced weapon. Or is the mortar :D

someonesomewhere 12-29-2006 12:28 AM

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Originally Posted by pooper200000 (Post 1258237)
is it the chaingun? I know it is. It is a very well balanced weapon. Or is the mortar :D

I define "balance" as so: If something has a noticable strength, then it should have a noticable weakness to "counter" it; or, it could have many smaller weaknesses. Noticable weakness for mortar: Slow classes, ineffective at medium range. Chaingun: Slow classes, has a relatively long start-up time.

Appirces have a large spread, can do up to 36 damage, and are available with the fastest classes. Aprippers are available with scouts, and do 40 damage max with a 20 damage minimum, and have an incredibly fast firing speed. I don't consider them to be balanced at all :p

jkool666 12-29-2006 05:27 PM

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Originally Posted by someonesomewhere (Post 1258195)
Definately not any of the pistols, I'll say that much.

G18/R51 are pretty balanced.

Crono 12-29-2006 06:57 PM

-shrugs- they still suck :P

MisterMastermind 12-30-2006 11:24 PM

My definition of balanced... If something has a strong point, it should also have a weak point, but if it's all round decent then it's fine. Appirces are all round weapons, no major strengths, no major weaknesses. Decent spread, decent damage, decent speed, decent clip size.

seanthien 12-31-2006 05:19 AM

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Originally Posted by MisterMastermind (Post 1258898)
My definition of balanced... If something has a strong point, it should also have a weak point, but if it's all round decent then it's fine. Appirces are all round weapons, no major strengths, no major weaknesses. Decent spread, decent damage, decent speed, decent clip size.

Apps do have a weakness..All weps do..Its teaming :O And proxys and lamers and any other lame stuff :(

Cid_Highwind18 12-31-2006 06:00 AM

seanthien do you find that out all by yourself.

http://img61.exs.cx/img61/6287/tfina...sy7ac221hr.gif

Triple_Darkness 12-31-2006 09:00 PM

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Originally Posted by Cid_Highwind18 (Post 1259049)
seanthien do you find that out all by yourself.

http://img61.exs.cx/img61/6287/tfina...sy7ac221hr.gif

Yah i think he did

seanthien 01-03-2007 07:22 AM

Did i find out what by myself? T_T And Cid you know you me..You shoudl call me Sean ;-;.Oh and photons,pipes,and eps can also be added :)


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