GK, and it's system.
 

Ok, Here it is, Once again.

How come, there is only, and wait let me quote sam on this, "3 events with a rare weapon a year".

3. That's all. Can anybody, be so kind as to tell me why the **** such lazy people where hired?

boo hoo, I don't care if I've insulted you (a staff member), and why don't I care? because you have the chance to fix that, and you don't. So it's staff's fault that GK sucks.

But why only 3 events a year with a rare weapon?

We all know GK has turned into the newb server. So if theres so many new people (well, 20) why haven't the events with rare items increased?

When the older players left, they took there items with them. So about 98% of all the nice, and "rare" items have been taken off the server completly, and are now on some dead account somewhere.

My point is, hire more staff, that can do more events, for more rare items. Im pretty sure everyones tired of winning an Event Coin.

And why can't the staff hold a damn poker, or even a Black Jack event? If anything, I could do that for them. :\

It's a game on the Game Server and not on GK and we do not have any moderation rights for games on this server. Maybe thats why!

I really need to protect the events masters from thisstatement. This is absolutly rubbish, you know that? No, I guess not. I remember when I was EM, there were also big things given out and you know how what. Maybe 1/8 of the players on the server took part. They did not even care that there was an event. I remember doing a cartrace with 2 people when 50+ were on. So please be quiet with that. You would say that's long ago, ture. But also with this position I did a few events. But not lots of people take part, still. I really liked to do events but such things made me sick and I only do "special" ones.

Now don't tell me again that it's only staffs fault.

There are role-playing events. But it is true that Kingdoms must be made more interesting:
1. Fighting: For more interesting events that involve fighting, we work on making the fighting more interesting on the debug server - warrior vs warrior, warrior vs mage, team vs team. We could make spars and also big events which involve two or more kingdoms.
2. Quests/Dungeons: We have things in planning to make regulary new quests which involve room-based monster-dungeons, puzzles and bring-item quests. This still requires more graphics for the room design (doors) and monsters. This will take some time, so don't expect it to be ready this year.

I agree. Not only that but players that start graal from like 2004 think that events were always part of graal. They expect events and when they get it they expect more, not only that but expect PRIZES.

Yes.

Whos fault is it? The players? We are the players, its your job to please us, obviously we are not pleased.

It is completely the staffs fault, 100%.

Then switch servers.

Not really. The GK staff can't drastically change the way GK is since they'd have to get through Stefan first.

Wouldn't that be why it is called a "rare weapon"?

GK development pace is picking up...
There actually are a handful of new people and we're working hard to fix what you're complaining about...nothing left to do, nothing left to strive for and look up to.

more like something legendary that you just have heard about but never seen =)

My point was, that if it is given in events more often, then it would become not so rare.

Maybe if you keep giving out the exact same weapon over and over.

It would be nice if development gave the public a timeline of the current projects. I want to keep up to date with what is being planned so I can give input if needed.

Yes, you would make a point. But in this case, you don't. Players don't want to take 10-15 minutes of there time they could spend leveling, and gaining items/dias, when all they have a shot at winning is an Event Coin. The older players, have enough money to just buy the Event Coin, if needed. Now, if you were to host, lets say and event for "Monkey Sandals of Gust", I'm sure you would have had more than 2 players competing. In fact, I can garentee you, that more than half the server (maybe even 2/3's) of the server would have participated.

If you guys really don't think it's staff's fault player count, and such aren't the staff's fault. Then let me, or bosh, or a player that's played for awhile take control of it for, lets say, a week. I can garentee player count will have increased.

All in all, it is the staff's fault player count is low, and that there are only, about 10% of any/all rare items in the game.

And Darlene. "Rare" items are supposed to be rare, but not to the point where only 1-2 people have all of them/most of them. The items should be spread out thru players across the server. Since staff doesn't do "rare item" events, no new weapons/armours are put into game.

Let me clarify something. I am not getting paid to host events. So I will do them when I have time. I have had nothing but complaints when I do them. I host what I have time for. You people are just item hungry. Like sam said to me once...((i will paraphrase...forgot the item he was talking about)):If you are given a tree seed to give as a prize then thats what you give.

And yet you want monkey sandals of gust, pmop's, RoW's etc. I would love to get those for you but we event masters are given a certain amount of items that we can event off. And for those who complain that certain events aren't run....where are you when they are run? Tell me that? Besides a few other ppl I am one of the most active event masters on gk and yet you have the audacity to complain about the items.

I can't believe this. Has everyone gotten so greedy that its all you care about? I have half a mind to just up and not give prizes in events. Events should be fun for you people. Something to break the monotony..but no you want items.."I want this..I want that". No more. This is my time that i am hosting event with. Not yours. Stefan doesn't pay me...neither does sam. I am doing this because I want too and all you can do is complain.

How about this ((yes this is harsh)). Get a life. This is just a game. Those are pixels that won't pay your rent, give you a allowance etc. Just come on to have fun.

I can agree that its boring if your too high of a level and have good stuff...but then you could be helping trials out.

Hey guess what? I was an EM too. I know what its like, stop whining, if you come up with good ideas you get good items to give away. If you don't want to commit your time then no one is keeping you here.

I come on to have fun, but I can't because there is nothing to do, not only no events, but absolutely nothing, people complain that we should get out of trade and do stuff. Do WHAT? Sit in a pub instead? Thats no better then sitting in trade? Level? I'm 110, no thanks. Roleplay? Fine, thats fun for a while, not forever.

The staff has ruined this game, not just EM's, but developers, there is nothing left to do. And now everyone complains they tell us how things are being developed.

Heres an idea, you should have developed things before this, so when people started getting bored, you could have appeased them right away, not lost most of your players.

It is 100% the staff's fault that GK is where its at, you can blame the players all you want, but they are the customers.

If your at a grocery store and ask for the deli for ham and get turkey, are you supposed to be happy about it?

We'll stop complaining when we get what we want.

Its obvious that GK has going in different directions then originally planned, is that a bad thing? No, but the staff seem to think it is, who cares if this was made to a MMORPG? Its obviously not now, people care about items and economy, how about playing that to your advantage? Apparantly the staff thinks the server should continue to build around roleplaying even though its a minority of people that want to do it.


There is also barely any developing going on, keep saying there are bigger things planned, they are not happening.

boo hoo.

We PAY to at least have a chance at getting certain items. With the staff being like this, people usually dont have a chance. I usually (when i played gk) missed events because most of the ETs are in a different time zone than me, and i'm not on all that much.

If your only givin EC's and such, without rare items, then its a staff higher up doing things differently.

All I know is that one of the Higher Staff Members, is making GK die, because lack of items.

Who wants to pay for a game, when you dont get **** for items? all the craftable items suck, and you'll be stuck as a "newb" until you get some lucky break. Someone (1 of you), is making it to where they want only 1 of each rare item out. Thats not how its supposed to be. And considering GK has about 200+ event items, theres just no need for it to be this way.

And if your to busy to host an event atleast once or twice a week, you shouldn't be an ET, because you get on "when you can". This is what im talking about. Instead of hiring people that act nice n ****, hire the people that will be on to host, because they play alot.

ET's not doing there job often = lack of players. Why? because like I said already, who wants to play when you have no shot at winning an event item that is actually good, and looks nice.

And with that being said, I think GK needs a complete new set of Staff. We need staff that can actually be on most the time to help make new items, or help with making new quests, and ideas. We tried using the old staff, and no offence, but you guys failed horribly. GK has alot of potential, but the old staff dont want to use it all. They want to keep doing RP Events that give out no prizes, then wonder why no one shows up. People want items/money/dias, they dont want EC's, or to just simply RP for fun.

Staff needs to learn to adapt to the new economy, and speed things up alot. Or they need to step down, and a whole new crew of players, that actually play, need to be put in.

The ironic part: you're the one crying.

No you don't. You pay to play GK.

I don't remember crying, but since you know so much about me, I guess your right :confused:

I don't pay to play GK anymore, its not worth the money. If something were done about this, I'd probly reconsider. As of now, I'm not going to be upgrading again anytime soon.

I'd gladly take any job openings of EM/GP. You all know I have some nice ideas usually. And my record against scamming is self proven. And actually, I just remembered one of my cool events that I'd like to host..

WAAH Y R U NOT HOSTING EVENTS

WAAH IM TEH ONE PAYING ;-;!!!! HOST EVENTS OMG STAFF U R SO BAD ;-; BO HOO -sniff- /wrist

Then don't say "We PAY to at least have a chance at getting certain items."

Which in itself is wrong anyway, as you pay to play GK itself, period.

sounds like someones mad. lol.

If you played GK back when I did, you'd know that most players did only upgrade to play GK.

All in all Gerami, you don't have any clue as to what your talking about. All your saying is "waah you guys keep saying they dont host events enough". And that's right we the players are saying there aren't enough events with items going on. 3 a year is all that staff is allowing. And when theres over 200 event items, 3 a year is going to take a hell of a long time before theres atleast 1 of every item out. Maybe try reading others posts, before trying to get on me. :rolleyes:

Look you pay for your account to play on gk and other servers. You don't pay for me to get you items. Whatever Sam gives me is what i have to work with. A few times I have cleared out my own personal inventory for you ppl and begged Sam a few times for good items. Lets see...hmm Leaf Shield would be one.

Stefan is working his butt off to get stuff done. You don't want stuff released too quickly in case there are bugs so things take time. I will host when I can but I have one request of ppl. Don't be greedy. If I am given a tree seed to give you as a prize then thats what you will get. No complaining nothing....hard enough to go through everyday with ppl complaining about how crappy items are that they win. Well i don't plan on cleaning out my inventory again anytime soon just so you will stop whining.

Again I say this. THIS IS JUST A GAME, THIS IS NOT REAL LIFE. THOSE ITEMS ARE PIXELS THAT WON'T HELP PAY FOR YOUR RENT, DRUG HABIT ETC.

There i hope you all read that this time. Now then for a final thing. If you don't like gk as it currently stands, no one is forcing you to stay and play it. Go play UN or Zone or something. Staying and complaining is just making you look bad..seriously.

Can everybody please just settle down for a minute?

The point was completely lost in the midst of this

I've heard alot of "You peole are just greedy :\ " and something along the lines of "Be happy with what you have, alright?"

This isn't a matter of events team handing out powerful items, although the fact that events coins are the only thing handed out do play a part in this. When you get down to it, the purpose of event items are to introduce rare things into the player base, rare enough to give the person a sense of being special. Am I wrong? It'll give a small bit of satisfaction while online, since...they can be proud of what theyve done.

Also... wtf is this about blaming the players? You're blaming them for being bored and losing interest? Somebody said that its the staffs job to try and make the players happy. ....The response was "no it isn't"? What the hell? Of course it is! If a companies job isn't to have its customers satisfied, then WHAT IS IT? From what I've heard, the effect events once had has clearly been lost... they're bored with it all. The events are old and theres nothing new and cool to try and achieve- getting one of the events items isn't as special anymore.

Events masters, stop taking this personally and getting all huffy. This isn't really a matter of events arn't being held often enough. That's what the initial statement was poking at, the events, but the events are all the people have left at the moment. It's all they have, so can you blame them to ask if they can be made more interesing?

It really comes down to lack of content on GK. Yes? Everyone is bored. They want to have fun. Add new quests, add new monsters, add cool rare things to get at all levels to show off, everything needs to be aimed at making the player feel like what they're doing is worth their time, and whatever they're hunting down...what they might be trying to get is worth getting.

Make the peopl feel accomplished...(sense of discovery, of having something special/unique, of superiority in some field...and the goal to work towards it...ways of building yourself up in the online community and stepping up)

I've read all those posts and now I will tell you my opinion:
1.
EM's job is to host events. Scripted events like watergalss or music chairs even as "handmade" events like king of the hill.
2.
The sense of events is NOT to earn valuable items. It's to have fun for everybody (players AND EM's which are p2p players too!!!).
3.
Beside this it's not the job of the events team to spread rare items to players.
4.
In the first place Graal Kingdoms is a role playing server. That means the player plays a role in this game active and interactive.
This results in a kind of complementary entertainment.
If players lack of fantasy they are not able to play a role, even if they are too lazy to RP or just idle at the same spot and wait for a mistery.
5.
GK got and get new additions in sporadic intervals. Some are bigger, some are smaller. This has nothing to do with the player count.
At last: the playercount dropped mainly because many older players quit by changing their interests, going to the university, having a job and so on.
Also some of them checked thats not as easy as before to scam and/or use GK to make quick real money.
We lack of new players, but to talk about the possible reasons goes beyond the scope of this thread.

/agree

I am willing to do what ever, as long as you GIVE ME A CHANCE. But of course, the foreign staff have to take grudges.

Yes you must be right... the question is who is foreign in a french game developed mainly by a german who lives in france, lol.

1. Yea, no duh, that isn't the problem here.
2. Great, then get better events because right now the ones suck and the only reason people want to do them is for the items. Items are also fun which you guys seem to miss, people enjoy getting new items.
3. Then its no ones job to spread these items? Because we don't have quests to give them out and many are on dead accounts.
4. it WAS a roleplaying game, no longer. Things evolve, times change. Roleplaying is nothing more then something to do as a compliment to the game now, not the focus of the game.
5. GK lost players not because people's interests changed, they just lost interest in it. Yes the additions or lack thereof have to do with the playercount, we got bored, we stopped playing. This is the staffs fault.

Either you missed the point of everyones post, or are just blind. Neither is good for a staff member.

Uh, you can USD them though that's illegal. (but will pay for your rent, durg habits, etc)

Exactly. You pay to play GK. You pay to GET ACCESS TO THE SERVER CALLED GRAAL KINGDOMS. It's not like you pay the staff to play events, which is what your whole argument was based off of which is wrong.

LOL, I played GK before you even started Graal. Probably before you were even on the internet.

Graal 2002 preview baby. :cool:

LOL! that first screen look damn cute crono xD

:redface: :redface: :redface:

It's really old, I think Jan 2002.

Alright my final word on this. I give what i am given for event prizes. GK last i heard was supposed to be a RP server. I was doing rp events but ppl started getting greedy and wanted better items. Heck 3/4's were there just for the prize. I have wanted to do one but know that no one would really join and that is sad.

I would have to say this to people. If you want a server where you can get rare items alot the make a server for graal. That way you can hand out more then 3 rare items a year. But if your coming to play graal kingdoms..come for the fun. Me and like 4 other people can waste time rping a storyline. Its fun.

Except that it isn't. Maybe the staff wanted it to be a roleplaying server, but it's the players who ultimately decide whether or not they're going to make roleplaying their main activity on the server, and they decided not to.

Because there are no rules :|

*applauds*
Too true.

I don't actually think staff are lazy though. I've become to believe that they don't know how to fix the server up at all and basically spoke to the right people to get the jobs. Its like when applying for a graalian gp. we had ex notorious graal scammers 'not naming anybody' and they got there by submitting an untrue app or asslicked the right people.

Graal needs to wake up and observe the decrease in numbers and increase in Wow's. World of warcraft is player stealing and is owning Graal hehe.

Personally i've not been there but I too now play a lot more games apart from graal.

No... Stop talking about that very boring grind fest game where its player only play because of the lovely graphics, because there cant be another reason unless its players are squirrels that just loves to grind endlessly. But squirrels do it for a reason... Bad example but close enough.

First the graphics aren't that good compared to other games and I highly doubt anyone plays a game soley for graphics.

It's nice to play a competitive game with a boat load of other people however.

You were hooked onto that game for months what are you talking about?!

I don't think thats something I'd brag about. lol.

In the end, You've played for maybe, lets say 300 hours. If thats the case, you'd dont know what your talking about. When you get 500+ hours, then I'll listen to you, somewhat.

You have to ask the older players that actually played, instead of just logging on for a few minutes to talk to friends, what the server needs. Crono, last I checked, you only had a naginita. Which classes you in the "newb" part. You don't (and I doubt you ever did) get anything rare. Which is where my point comes in. You've been playing alot longer than me, and you've never had anything worth value. Now do you see the problem?

**Edit

And as mech just pointed out to me. When 3 of the players, with alot of the rare items, quit. All the other players started to slowly quit aswell. Why did they start to quit? Because they had no reason to work for a rare item they wanted. Put more rare items into the game, and players will start to come back because they actually have something to work for.

I can garentee if a player were to become staff (and not one of those goodie good players that think just like the rest of the staff) where to take control of the server, within a month player count would be back up to around 80.