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myth-simba 11-25-2006 10:52 PM

House Con!! Slow it down!
 
My houses have depleted 5% over the weekend! I struggled to keep it alive at 1% a day nevermind %2.5! Cmon! slow it. mining is so boring so if it must be like this then make mining better. either by allowing you to continiously hack away while holding the button. so i can rest something on my keyboard and watch tv for an hour and come back. its dumb how these houses are behaving. Also i cannot access my mailbox for some odd reason. Yes i do have the key and i did make the house myself.

Galdor 11-25-2006 11:29 PM

no work harder! ;)
nah I agree I once had a house... but it was too much work so I let it rot :/

Stephen 11-26-2006 12:10 AM

Just pay newbs ridiculous prices to mine the stuff for you.

Googi 11-26-2006 12:54 AM

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Originally Posted by myth-simba (Post 1247149)
Also i cannot access my mailbox for some odd reason.

You actually use the mailbox?

cyan3 11-26-2006 12:58 AM

The house con maybe ridiculous but when i mine to repair my house i get lots of stone so i can fix it for along time and its not really that hard to mine.

myth-simba 11-26-2006 01:27 AM

Well i was thinking of..
 
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Originally Posted by Googi (Post 1247198)
You actually use the mailbox?

Basically i had an idea for MMT staff to pay workers by giving them their wages through their mail. And if this was adopted, well i would be missing out on my wages lol.

Anyways why should we do all that work? paying noobs, mining longer and so on? i think since there is no item backup system, and i'm sure as hell not buying 5 accounts to hold my house's content. The staff should return con to normal or even change the materials. the point of house deteriation is to get rid of unused houses. so why need nails? They are boring to craft, i hate smithing. why not just have boards? it is quicker for repairing, and those who use their house will always be healthy. I've known players let their houses drop because they had no time to get nails and so on.

cyan3 11-26-2006 10:50 AM

I find it easy to get nail boards and stone but i have lots of time to do that kind of thing when i get on only about 5 people are on (This is becuare of GMT Time not inctiveness) so i cant really do anything untill players get on so i just mine.

myth-simba 11-26-2006 08:31 PM

i hate mining. if mining was more fun then i would do it. if for example like blessing, i could just rest something on keyboard and watch character mine i can watch tv while he does it. then i'd mine!

JackOd 11-26-2006 10:09 PM

Excuse me, but just because you feel that you are too good to mine remember that that used to be one of the few sources of income you had when you were too low of a level to kill pretty much anything worth while. You should apreciate the fact that there are people out there mining simply to get diamonds. You should try it sometime, it's very tedious sence you rarely get any. I wish they never made skeletons drop diamonds more often. I remember when it was rare to see someone whip out 10 diamonds, and now about a week ago I saw someone put 750 diamonds on the table as if it were nothing.

cyan3 11-27-2006 12:15 AM

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Originally Posted by JackOd (Post 1247475)
Excuse me, but just because you feel that you are too good to mine remember that that used to be one of the few sources of income you had when you were too low of a level to kill pretty much anything worth while. You should apreciate the fact that there are people out there mining simply to get diamonds. You should try it sometime, it's very tedious sence you rarely get any. I wish they never made skeletons drop diamonds more often. I remember when it was rare to see someone whip out 10 diamonds, and now about a week ago I saw someone put 750 diamonds on the table as if it were nothing.

I didint mine to get money when i started but i guess thats how i dont really mind it.

JackOd 11-27-2006 04:27 PM

I can't find any other way right now realy, I don't have enough to buy EA's or anything I can make money off of selling to people, so I've been mining sence yesterday. Haven't found a single diamond, but I almost have a house kit I can sell.

jonnyrocks2 11-27-2006 04:39 PM

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Originally Posted by JackOd (Post 1247475)
Excuse me, but just because you feel that you are too good to mine remember that that used to be one of the few sources of income you had when you were too low of a level to kill pretty much anything worth while. You should apreciate the fact that there are people out there mining simply to get diamonds. You should try it sometime, it's very tedious sence you rarely get any. I wish they never made skeletons drop diamonds more often. I remember when it was rare to see someone whip out 10 diamonds, and now about a week ago I saw someone put 750 diamonds on the table as if it were nothing.

Excuse me, who are you and how did you know about old Kingdoms? :\

zell12 11-27-2006 05:56 PM

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Originally Posted by jonnyrocks2 (Post 1247697)
Excuse me, who are you and how did you know about old Kingdoms? :\

Who are you!? :)


Yeah, it's changed a hell of a lot. Now apparently diamonds are the currency I guess.

I wonder if the administration finds something wrong with that? Money (platinum, gold, silver coins) is not used as currency...whats wrong with that...

jonnyrocks2 11-27-2006 06:36 PM

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Originally Posted by zell12 (Post 1247714)
Who are you!? :)


Yeah, it's changed a hell of a lot. Now apparently diamonds are the currency I guess.

I wonder if the administration finds something wrong with that? Money (platinum, gold, silver coins) is not used as currency...whats wrong with that...

I'm Uri?

Anyway, I asked because apparantly he knew something about old Graal, when it seems he joined this year. >:3

hampy 11-27-2006 07:13 PM

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Originally Posted by JackOd (Post 1247696)
I almost have a house kit I can sell.

Well thats not bad to begin with, you can sell a house kit for 20 dias, then buy like a dagger to kill monsters like skellies and get rubies & saphs from them to sell aswell. You can easily get 100 dias from like 20 mins a day for a week doing this

hampy 11-27-2006 07:15 PM

I find the easiest way to make money is through trading, buy stuff that people need to sell for cheap and then sell it again straigh away. You will make alot of money this way depending on how much the item is worth... anyway yeah just buy something cheap then wait till someone masses out buying that item and they will pay more for it then you paid for it = profit :) blah :asleep:

JackOd 11-27-2006 07:22 PM

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Originally Posted by jonnyrocks2 (Post 1247697)
Excuse me, who are you and how did you know about old Kingdoms? :\

I had an account on here about two or three years ago.

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Originally Posted by hampy (Post 1247752)
I find the easiest way to make money is through trading, buy stuff that people need to sell for cheap and then sell it again straigh away. You will make alot of money this way depending on how much the item is worth... anyway yeah just buy something cheap then wait till someone masses out buying that item and they will pay more for it then you paid for it = profit :) blah :asleep:

But that's assuming I have money to buy anything to start with. Once I get a couple thousand plat I'll be able to do it.

Ravenblade1979 11-27-2006 07:55 PM

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Originally Posted by hampy (Post 1247752)
I find the easiest way to make money is through trading, buy stuff that people need to sell for cheap and then sell it again straigh away. You will make alot of money this way depending on how much the item is worth... anyway yeah just buy something cheap then wait till someone masses out buying that item and they will pay more for it then you paid for it = profit :) blah :asleep:

You see the trouble with that is that alot of ppl are doing this already. They buy something for cheap then sell it at triple the cost of what it should be. Its actually funny to see them trying to figure out why no one will buy their stuff.

JackOd 11-27-2006 08:16 PM

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Originally Posted by Ravenblade1979 (Post 1247773)
You see the trouble with that is that alot of ppl are doing this already. They buy something for cheap then sell it at triple the cost of what it should be. Its actually funny to see them trying to figure out why no one will buy their stuff.

The prices are actualy based on supply and demand, the ones that rarely show up in the shops, but are needed by alot of people, such as EA's, are priced alot higher then items that rarely show up in shops but no one wants.

Stephen 11-28-2006 12:13 AM

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Originally Posted by JackOd (Post 1247475)
a week ago I saw someone put 750 diamonds on the table as if it were nothing.

Small change, I've had 3500 diamonds before.

Gothika 11-28-2006 12:55 AM

Small change indeed. Some of my items are worth that alone.

Crono 11-28-2006 01:45 AM

Both of my houses have died and after that I just stopped bothering with GK. It's horrible and I can't believe Stefan hasn't worked on a new Graal server. I mean it was G2k1, then G2k2, but wheres 2k3? 2k4? 2k5? 2k6? It's all about Graal 3D...and thats going to take ages. :(

JackOd 11-28-2006 02:17 AM

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Originally Posted by Gothika (Post 1247857)
Small change indeed. Some of my items are worth that alone.

you see? That's what I hate. People consider these diamonds that are so hard for people early in the game to get ahold of "small change" Infact for about 2 hours yesterday, and 3 hours today I was in the mine and finaly got ahold of 3 diamonds. 5 hours, 3 diamonds. Do any of you know how tedious that is? Fortunately I got enough stuff for a house kit while mining for them.

jonnyrocks2 11-28-2006 04:18 AM

Who was you, Jack? =p

Anyway, Yea, slow it down, its a bit nerve racking when you're house is found at 20% and you're stuck with limited time to much during the day. >:3

Stephen 11-28-2006 04:19 AM

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Originally Posted by JackOd (Post 1247886)
you see? That's what I hate. People consider these diamonds that are so hard for people early in the game to get ahold of "small change" Infact for about 2 hours yesterday, and 3 hours today I was in the mine and finaly got ahold of 3 diamonds. 5 hours, 3 diamonds. Do any of you know how tedious that is? Fortunately I got enough stuff for a house kit while mining for them.

There is more than one way to skin a cat; and you shouldn't blame us because you have chosen the slowest.

JackOd 11-28-2006 05:43 AM

Can't remember my old login name. And I'm not blaming you guys, I'm just saying you should apreciate the fact that there's people who spend more time in the mines then you, no mater how much you mine. About a week ago I spent 14 hours straight on GK, 6 hours of that being in the mines.

Gothika 11-28-2006 09:11 AM

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Originally Posted by JackOd (Post 1247955)
Can't remember my old login name. And I'm not blaming you guys, I'm just saying you should apreciate the fact that there's people who spend more time in the mines then you, no mater how much you mine. About a week ago I spent 14 hours straight on GK, 6 hours of that being in the mines.

I don't have anything against people who do that. I don't call them noobs. If they ask me for advice I'd tell them better ways to make money.
Like instead of mining. If you're low level, go into the Haunted House with a bile bless bow and you'd make a bit of money out of that. Depends how lucky you are though.

Stephen 11-28-2006 03:44 PM

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Originally Posted by JackOd (Post 1247955)
Can't remember my old login name. And I'm not blaming you guys, I'm just saying you should apreciate the fact that there's people who spend more time in the mines then you, no mater how much you mine. About a week ago I spent 14 hours straight on GK, 6 hours of that being in the mines.

Oh. Well in that case I demand the users be more appreciative of the hard working laborers of Kuala Lumpur. I believe that's on par with the relevance of the previous statements.

Ravenblade1979 11-28-2006 09:08 PM

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Originally Posted by JackOd (Post 1247776)
The prices are actualy based on supply and demand, the ones that rarely show up in the shops, but are needed by alot of people, such as EA's, are priced alot higher then items that rarely show up in shops but no one wants.


Err i am also talking like easy to get stuff. I seen someone try to sell a common spell for 3 dias when i bought it for 200. EA's aren't priced high anymore. Don't know who you buy from but they go for 4-5 dias and iwd"s i think go for 5-6. Stuff isn't the way it should be anymore.

See my actual point is that ppl try to sell stuff for way too much these days. And then wonder why ppl laugh and call them a noob. Its sad but at the same time its their fault.

myth-simba 11-28-2006 09:14 PM

hahahah
 
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Originally Posted by JackOd (Post 1247475)
Excuse me, but just because you feel that you are too good to mine remember that that used to be one of the few sources of income you had when you were too low of a level to kill pretty much anything worth while. You should apreciate the fact that there are people out there mining simply to get diamonds. You should try it sometime, it's very tedious sence you rarely get any. I wish they never made skeletons drop diamonds more often. I remember when it was rare to see someone whip out 10 diamonds, and now about a week ago I saw someone put 750 diamonds on the table as if it were nothing.


you mine for diamonds?!?! sucker... kill skeletons. I can get a guarenteed 10 diamonds in approx 20 minutes or so on a good day. minimum 5. Mining takes too long. believe me i tried it. anyways i do not think i am too good to mine because i used to do it a lot. But the fact that I have to log on when normally i would not just to repair my house is stupid. Graal consumes too much free time. If you a staff you gotta be there like its a full-time real job. Even house repair is a kick in the ass. So please don't comment on my 'appreciation' until you've played for over 2 years.;)

Oh and the people that lay 750 diamonds on tables without thinking... well. they are either people who buy or sell items with usd, or a brilliant trader. Or they are the type that spend most of their lives at a computer screen. (no offence to anyone but its true.) I'm not prepared to put that much time into a game.

Ravenblade1979 11-28-2006 09:47 PM

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Originally Posted by myth-simba (Post 1248212)
you mine for diamonds?!?! sucker... kill skeletons. I can get a guarenteed 10 diamonds in approx 20 minutes or so on a good day. minimum 5. Mining takes too long. believe me i tried it. anyways i do not think i am too good to mine because i used to do it a lot. But the fact that I have to log on when normally i would not just to repair my house is stupid. Graal consumes too much free time. If you a staff you gotta be there like its a full-time real job. Even house repair is a kick in the ass. So please don't comment on my 'appreciation' until you've played for over 2 years.;)

Oh and the people that lay 750 diamonds on tables without thinking... well. they are either people who buy or sell items with usd, or a brilliant trader. Or they are the type that spend most of their lives at a computer screen. (no offence to anyone but its true.) I'm not prepared to put that much time into a game.


Heh i can barely get 1 dias....750 would be nice though..would get me my RoW...lol. But yeah these ppl have way too much time on their hands.

Stephen 11-28-2006 10:47 PM

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Originally Posted by myth-simba (Post 1248212)
Oh and the people that lay 750 diamonds on tables without thinking... well. they are either people who buy or sell items with usd, or a brilliant trader. Or they are the type that spend most of their lives at a computer screen. (no offence to anyone but its true.) I'm not prepared to put that much time into a game.

I take offense to this, and it illustrates the ignorance you hold that has been annoying me for a while.

While I do sell for USD, I have never bought items for USD. So, how does that influence how many diamonds I have if I didn't buy them? It's called knowing the market and knowing how to trade. I suppose I may fall under your "brilliant trader" point - but that falls short to cover the full detail.

I've played a long time, sometimes spending a lot of time, sometimes spending very little. Regardless of either amounts - I've come to understand both the system and the individuals who participate under the system of trading. With this I've amassed a fair amount of fluid assets on GK. If you have a problem with that, deal. But I'm not going to let anyone go on here, or the client and tell me I'm terrible for being good at something, and consequently amassing a collection of items.

cyan3 11-29-2006 01:02 AM

Some times some people on Graal Kingdoms who i think have just started and they come up to me and say "I hate you becoure your better than me why are you better than me" etc

JackOd 11-30-2006 08:36 AM

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Originally Posted by myth-simba (Post 1248212)
you mine for diamonds?!?! sucker... kill skeletons. I can get a guarenteed 10 diamonds in approx 20 minutes or so on a good day. minimum 5. Mining takes too long. believe me i tried it. anyways i do not think i am too good to mine because i used to do it a lot. But the fact that I have to log on when normally i would not just to repair my house is stupid. Graal consumes too much free time. If you a staff you gotta be there like its a full-time real job. Even house repair is a kick in the ass. So please don't comment on my 'appreciation' until you've played for over 2 years.;)

Oh and the people that lay 750 diamonds on tables without thinking... well. they are either people who buy or sell items with usd, or a brilliant trader. Or they are the type that spend most of their lives at a computer screen. (no offence to anyone but its true.) I'm not prepared to put that much time into a game.

Please pay atention to the convorsation, I had an account over 2 years ago. and please don't give useless suggestions, I already know that I 'could' kill skeletons to get diamonds. The problem is I can't. Diamonds used to be just as hard to get for high level players as low level players.

JackOd 11-30-2006 08:43 AM

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Originally Posted by cyan3 (Post 1248289)
Some times some people on Graal Kingdoms who i think have just started and they come up to me and say "I hate you becoure your better than me why are you better than me" etc

Those people are idiots. The people who will not change their point of view and simply assume anything and everything about people in general simply because of the items they have or their level of skill, or anything else for that matter, they are pointless and should be killed... constantly.

Stephen 11-30-2006 09:18 AM

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Originally Posted by JackOd (Post 1247475)
Excuse me, but just because you feel that you are too good to mine ...You should apreciate the fact that there are people out there mining simply to get diamonds

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Originally Posted by JackOd (Post 1248715)
please don't give useless suggestions

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Originally Posted by JackOd (Post 1248717)
Those people are idiots. The people who will not change their point of view and simply assume anything and everything about people in general simply because of the items they have or their level of skill, or anything else for that matter, they are pointless and should be killed... constantly.

Re-heh-heh-eally?

JackOd 11-30-2006 10:01 AM

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Originally Posted by Stephen (Post 1248724)
Re-heh-heh-eally?

I knew someone would misunderstand what I meant >.> Ok, lemme ask this... Have I assumed anything about anyone?


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