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Crono 11-15-2006 01:34 AM

LAT Challenges?
 
I noticed

1) The amount of activity in our brother's (the GATs) forums
2) The competition they have

So what about us LATs? Let's have some competitions, some flamewars, etc. Come on now. I might hold something, not sure. Maybe someone more organized should host a competition? No prize needed really.

Infernix 11-15-2006 01:46 AM

....Maybe...Im not much of a show off anymore.

Shotoo2 11-15-2006 01:47 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Gerami (Post 1243582)
So what about us LATs? Let's have some competitions, some flamewars, etc. Come on now. I might hold something, not sure. Maybe someone more organized should host a competition? No prize needed really.

Your work on Era should be so time consuming, that you shouldn't have time for competitions, sleep, or even a life. :mad:

bgumeny 11-15-2006 01:55 AM

I don't know about flamewars, all that USUK OMG YOU STOLE THOSE LEVELS!!!@ would get kind of irritating, but competitions and collaborations would definitely be fun.

Perhaps each week or few weeks there can be a competition to utilize a different leveling style or aspect of the tileset, or even a completely different tileset.

Darlene159 11-15-2006 02:00 AM

lol, I haven't made a level in so long...
would be fun though.

Infernix 11-15-2006 02:04 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by bgumeny (Post 1243588)
I don't know about flamewars, all that USUK OMG YOU STOLE THOSE LEVELS!!!@ would get kind of irritating, but competitions and collaborations would definitely be fun.

Perhaps each week or few weeks there can be a competition to utilize a different leveling style or aspect of the tileset, or even a completely different tileset.

Level Collabs hurt my eyes. It would have to be a VIP collab lol.

Chicken_l33t 11-15-2006 02:17 AM

I'll join in. havent entered a leveling competition in years. Last one the only people who entered were me and Wan.

bgumeny 11-15-2006 02:35 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Infernix (Post 1243590)
Level Collabs hurt my eyes. It would have to be a VIP collab lol.

Good point. Perhaps some sort of strict collab where each submitted level is reviewed before it is actually added to make sure it fits the style. Or as you said a VIP collab where only certain people can contribute, although that kind of defeats the purpose of a collaboration. If done right, though, a level collaboration could be pretty fun if say, a bunch of LATs got together to make a small island. One could be assigned the forest, one some mountains, another could do the coastline, and a few could make some villages and stuff.

Thrashsoul3 11-15-2006 02:52 AM

The easiest way to have a contest would be to give a specific scene for people to design, with at least 3 things the level must have ex. A lake house with a balcony in the forest.

Infernix 11-15-2006 05:02 AM

....If Crono makes a level Ill do it. But...Wan will win lol. Maybe ill team up with Tom and have him make some a few custom tiles XD.

Devil 11-15-2006 05:09 AM

Flamewars sound good.

Chicken_l33t 11-15-2006 05:09 AM

Quote:

....If Crono makes a level Ill do it. But...Wan will win lol. Maybe ill team up with Tom and have him make some a few custom tiles XD.
Don't act like Wan is un beatable.

excaliber7388 11-15-2006 06:07 AM

Already started (what, it makes you guys look better).

maximus_asinus 11-15-2006 07:06 AM

I dislike collabs for one simple reason; people of... sub par talent decide to enter, and ruin (a strong word, but fitting) a potentially good looking level. Maybe we should have another contest like the ones from awhile ago:
  • Make a level with a prerequisite of usable tile types (must use snow tiles, lava tiles, and grass tiles in a level for example).
  • Post a level half tiled, and the contestants need to complete the level (WITHOUT REMOVAL OF PREEXISTING TILES).

WanDaMan 11-15-2006 09:46 AM

Ask Shadowless if he could moderate several competitions etc.

Mykel 11-15-2006 11:49 AM

I think it'd be awesome to do something along the lines of a small over-world collab. Each person in the collab does a 20-something level town.

I think it could make for a pretty OW.

Devil 11-15-2006 12:07 PM

20 levels? Bah we would have to wait ages for some people to finish haha.

Crono 11-15-2006 12:58 PM

20 levels?! ARE YOU CRAZY? THAT WOULD TAKE ME A MONTH LOL.

Yeah maybe Shadowless should host something, since it is his forum and we're dying to compete. :(

Elk 11-15-2006 09:43 PM

you need an Elk2

Eagle 11-16-2006 03:32 AM

Want a challenge? Make a level useing like almost every tile. =]

Grappler 11-16-2006 03:59 AM

I haven't made a level in a long time, but I'll participate if there is one. :D

Crono 11-16-2006 04:06 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Eagle (Post 1243878)
Want a challenge? Make a level useing like almost every tile. =]

Alright you host the challenge. :)

Infernix 11-16-2006 04:18 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mykel (Post 1243691)
I think it'd be awesome to do something along the lines of a small over-world collab. Each person in the collab does a 20-something level town.

I think it could make for a pretty OW.

LOL Sorry only Delteria does extreme amounts of levels like that. Wow...I dont think any 2d game would ever have a town that big.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Chicken_l33t (Post 1243632)
Don't act like Wan is un beatable.

lol Na, but he makes some clean levels...and then adds custom tiles...custom tiles is where I lose.

maximus_asinus 11-16-2006 04:20 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Eagle (Post 1243878)
Want a challenge? Make a level useing like almost every tile. =]

Not possible, a single level can only hold what? 256 tiles? The pics1 contains 4096 tiles? I might be wrong in my math.

Mykel 11-16-2006 05:32 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Infernix (Post 1243901)
LOL Sorry only Delteria does extreme amounts of levels like that. Wow...I dont think any 2d game would ever have a town that big.

20 levels for a town is actually pretty small, rofl.

Mykel 11-16-2006 05:33 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by maximus_asinus (Post 1243906)
Not possible, a single level can only hold what? 256 tiles? The pics1 contains 4096 tiles? I might be wrong in my math.

I'm not sure how big pics1 is, but a level can hold 3600 tiles.

maximus_asinus 11-16-2006 05:39 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mykel (Post 1243939)
I'm not sure how big pics1 is, but a level can hold 3600 tiles.

I'm not sure why, but I multiplied the levels 32x32, ahaha.

A level is 64x64 tiles (or 1024x1024 pixels) which would equal 4096. Pics1 is 2048x512 pixels (or 128x32 tiles). I guess it is possible to fit all the tiles, if you used one of every tile.

Infernix 11-16-2006 06:38 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mykel (Post 1243938)
20 levels for a town is actually pretty small, rofl.

Maybe, I dont rlly count the levels i make since I develop them on gmaps.

bgumeny 11-17-2006 02:59 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mykel (Post 1243938)
20 levels for a town is actually pretty small, rofl.

Thats true, you'd probably be able to make a village or something in under 10 levels, but for a town you need more. Like Infernix said the gmap can really throw you off.

WanDaMan 11-17-2006 09:40 AM

I believe it depends on the tileset you're using; it's easier to make a 20+ level town on Valikorlia's tileset than on the default. I'd love for someone to create a 20+ level town using the default - I think it's way too big for a town, my towns are no bigger than 5 level's...

Mykel 11-17-2006 11:36 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by WanDaMan (Post 1244383)
I believe it depends on the tileset you're using; it's easier to make a 20+ level town on Valikorlia's tileset than on the default. I'd love for someone to create a 20+ level town using the default - I think it's way too big for a town, my towns are no bigger than 5 level's...

I used to work on Versus, and quite a few of them were more than 5 levels.

maximus_asinus 11-17-2006 03:05 PM

I'm going to have to agree with Wan on this one. 20 levels for a town is rediciously large unless you're trying to spread the buildings apart so much as to only have two per level. I think a decent city could be made in 10 levels or less.

I'll use Graal City on Classic for example, if you look at the size, it is roughly 8-10 levels in total, and all the necessary 'townish' levels are there. There is no need for a 20 level town, unless you're trying to squeeze in a few extra player houses.

Crono 11-17-2006 03:06 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by maximus_asinus (Post 1244412)
I'm going to have to agree with Wan on this one. 20 levels for a town is rediciously large unless you're trying to spread the buildings apart so much as to only have two per level. I think a decent city could be made in 10 levels or less.

I'll use Graal City on Classic for example, if you look at the size, it is roughly 8-10 levels in total, and all the necessary 'townish' levels are there. There is no need for a 20 level town, unless you're trying to squeeze in a few extra player houses.

Nothing wrong with a 20 level town though. I mean look at Delteria's main town, it's the best i've seen on Graal. Of course until they started editing it and messing **** up. :)

WanDaMan 11-17-2006 07:46 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mykel (Post 1244395)
I used to work on Versus, and quite a few of them were more than 5 levels.

True. A lot are bigger than 5 levels >_< .

Grappler 11-18-2006 12:25 AM

To get back onto the topic of a challenge... I agree with Thrash's idea.
Quote:

Originally Posted by Thrashsoul3
The easiest way to have a contest would be to give a specific scene for people to design, with at least 3 things the level must have ex. A lake house with a balcony in the forest.


Zideruic 11-18-2006 12:39 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Gerami (Post 1244414)
Nothing wrong with a 20 level town though. I mean look at Delteria's main town, it's the best i've seen on Graal. Of course until they started editing it and messing **** up. :)

Delteria's main town? Which one? you mean the OSL...Tahan....Barion...?


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