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Stephen 11-11-2006 08:32 AM

Crow [UPDATED]
 
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Just as a follow up to my crow sketch in The Sketch Thread, here's a further illustration I did in Adobe Illustrator.

I'm not happy with the results, but I was experimenting with a new technique.

Em 11-11-2006 10:15 AM

it's alright, the head/beak looks a bit deformed

Magadal 11-11-2006 10:40 AM

I think its cool :P

Draenin 11-11-2006 10:52 AM

Birds tend to have more elongated, slender, curvy bodies. The problem with the bird lies mainly in the pose. The bird's back is very rigid, forcing it to look at the ground which is a very weird place for it bo be looking with wings outstretched, considering that birds usually look down at places to land, or if they are in search of something on the ground, but usually that's not often with wings outstretched.

Myomoto 11-11-2006 02:21 PM

Its beak look kinda "fat", otherwise it's very cool.

Sam 11-11-2006 02:44 PM

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Originally Posted by Myomoto (Post 1241886)
Its beak look kinda "fat", otherwise it's very cool.

Did you ever saw a crow irl? they have such beaks!

Myomoto 11-11-2006 02:52 PM

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Originally Posted by Sam (Post 1241890)
Did you ever saw a crow irl? they have such beaks!

Yes, infact I have, hence my statement of it's beak being too fat :\

Sam 11-11-2006 02:56 PM

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Originally Posted by Myomoto (Post 1241892)
Yes, infact I have, hence my statement of it's beak being too fat :\

Oh I see you are right, you beat me with your experience.

Myomoto 11-11-2006 03:00 PM

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Originally Posted by Sam (Post 1241893)
Oh I see you are right, you beat me with your experience.

Look, a crow has a rather big, but slender, beak, the drawing has a rather round and big beak.

A'right?

Crono 11-11-2006 03:40 PM

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Originally Posted by Myomoto (Post 1241894)
Look, a crow has a rather big, but slender, beak, the drawing has a rather round and big beak.

A'right?

i think it only looks like that because it's beak is closed

Myomoto 11-11-2006 03:44 PM

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Originally Posted by Gerami (Post 1241904)
i think it only looks like that because it's beak is closed

Or maybe it's the "cheek", I dunno.

Tom 11-11-2006 04:03 PM

Crows are awesome, but this also is :D

Elk 11-11-2006 06:59 PM

i like it

WanDaMan 11-11-2006 07:40 PM

Wow, very impressive! Nice job =D

Galdor 11-11-2006 07:49 PM

looks cool step =)

Stephen 11-11-2006 07:56 PM

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Originally Posted by Draenin (Post 1241868)
Birds tend to have more elongated, slender, curvy bodies. The problem with the bird lies mainly in the pose. The bird's back is very rigid, forcing it to look at the ground which is a very weird place for it bo be looking with wings outstretched, considering that birds usually look down at places to land, or if they are in search of something on the ground, but usually that's not often with wings outstretched.

This is clearly a stylized drawing x_x If you're not sure what "Stylization" in illustration is (although I'm sure you are), look it up on Google.

maximus_asinus 11-11-2006 08:11 PM

I think it looks pretty neat, it'd make a good tattoo.

Stephen 11-11-2006 08:15 PM

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Originally Posted by maximus_asinus (Post 1242051)
I think it looks pretty neat, it'd make a good tattoo.

That was actually my original intent - however I'm going to fix it a bit. Some of the lines on it are too even and small. Looks pretty bad right now.

Look at the lines I put on it's "thigh". Looks pretty nice there.

xAndrewx 11-11-2006 10:07 PM

Woah, I'd steal that and place it as my avatar if allowed:D

Stephen 11-12-2006 08:34 AM

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Originally Posted by xAndrewx (Post 1242092)
Woah, I'd steal that and place it as my avatar if allowed:D

Go nuts :p

Stephen 11-12-2006 10:15 AM

As I said earlier, I was going to work on this more. However I took a second look at it in Illustrator and I'm ashamed to call it my work. I redesigned it entirely, please tell me which of the two designs is better.
http://www.flatblack.ca/images/crow1.jpghttp://www.flatblack.ca/images/crow2.jpg

Magadal 11-12-2006 10:30 AM

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Originally Posted by Stephen (Post 1242260)
As I said earlier, I was going to work on this more. However I took a second look at it in Illustrator and I'm ashamed to call it my work. I redesigned it entirely, please tell me which of the two designs is better.
http://www.flatblack.ca/images/crow1.jpghttp://www.flatblack.ca/images/crow2.jpg

The one on the left is cooler :P

Edit: Haha, nice copyright thingy xD

xAndrewx 11-12-2006 10:51 AM

Love you :]
I like the left one--

Draenin 11-12-2006 12:12 PM

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Originally Posted by Stephen
This is clearly a stylized drawing If you're not sure what "Stylization" in illustration is (although I'm sure you are), look it up on Google.

I was going to mention that in my first post. Don't jump in my face or I'll jump down your throat, and you know it.

Also, don't even start to use 'stylization' here because people will start to rape that term like they do with other stuff. It's stylized, sure, but you might want to mention that it's stylized to look like an illustration / tattoo and not simply just 'stylized.' You'd give people the wrong idea and give them the notion that they can use that as a term to defend any slight mistake in their work. Your bird's pose was stiff and rigid, whether it was stylized or not. The wings were curvy, the back stiff, and I decided to make a point of it.

Stephen 11-12-2006 08:05 PM

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Originally Posted by Draenin (Post 1242288)
I was going to mention that in my first post. Don't jump in my face or I'll jump down your throat, and you know it.

oplz :asleep:
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but you might want to mention that it's stylized to look like an illustration / tattoo and not simply just 'stylized.'
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Originally Posted by Stephen (Post 1242053)
That was actually my original intent

(this is me saying it was intended as a tattoo design).

WHAT YOU SAY?:p Also, from my second design it's quite evident that I have some fairly intense stylization going on.

Crono 11-12-2006 08:16 PM

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Originally Posted by Draenin (Post 1242288)
Also, don't even start to use 'stylization' here because people will start to rape that term like they do with other stuff.

i stylized my pluffy in the thread i created ya :cool:

alarid0 11-12-2006 09:05 PM

:O
Woah...

Ok first off since I never commented on the first one...
It is kind of stiff but I like how you made it look like a design on some medival wood burned image. The linear shading you did is great :)

That second crow, however....
Woah...
I don't know what to say. I love it. Alot.
Definitely go with the one on the left.

Amazing crest :)

Draenin 11-12-2006 10:43 PM

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Originally Posted by Stephen
(this is me saying it was intended as a tattoo design).

It's cool that that's what you meant, but it's not what you said. :\

Stephen 11-12-2006 10:52 PM

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Originally Posted by Draenin (Post 1242601)
It's cool that that's what you meant, but it's not what you said. :\

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Originally Posted by Stephen (Post 1242453)
oplz :asleep:

Hehe.

Myomoto 11-12-2006 11:03 PM

Love the new one.
And by new I mean the new left one, of course.

lancelot9 11-13-2006 12:25 AM

i like the one on the left 2.. the tail seems a bit big tho

nice work i love it anyways

Zideruic 11-13-2006 01:43 AM

is that a chicken?

Demisis_P2P 11-13-2006 01:58 AM

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Originally Posted by Zideruic (Post 1242732)
is that a chicken?

Yeah. It breathes fire and roasts itself. Proof of evolution.

Stephen 11-13-2006 02:00 AM

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Originally Posted by Demisis_P2P (Post 1242746)
Yeah. It breathes fire and roasts itself. Proof of evolution.

The egg came first, duh :rolleyes:
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Originally Posted by Zideruic (Post 1242732)
is that a chicken?

Please refer to the title of the thread for your answer.

Zideruic 11-13-2006 02:24 AM

Looks like some kind of strange crow-chicken hybrid.


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