Make proxies visible again
 

Everything except for GWARS was designed with the fact that proxies are visible.

Invisible proxies are literally ruining CTF. The roads are far too narrow to have hidden proxies everywhere.

As a matter of fact the idea of invisible proxies was stupid to begin with. If you DO want to keep hidden proxies then do this instead...

Have normal proxies, don't hide.

Then have another, more expensive, "stealth mine".

Same GFX just that stealth mines uh hide and normal proxies stay visible.

Either way I think invisible proxies ruined Zone a lot. If invisible proxies do become removed rename the detector to something like Nightvision and make a dark map.

Also about that detector, it apparently equips in one of your slots right? That makes sense because your idle gani has the hand touching the detector, but when you walk there's no hands on the detector. This makes no sense.

Why does it deactivate when you have a pistol in the other hand? I know its because you have to re-do all the ganis, so instead why not just make it a hat? x_x

Yay! I agree GO CRONO!

Agreed... Poor little kitties...

Mine detector should, in all seriousness, be a buyable item, that you can equip full-time. And they should have proxis visible, agreed.

What's with this cat fetish?
I agree indefinatley. Especially the buyable, more expensive mines. But then we have to get rid of the infinite proxy glitch too. :/

Make mine detector toggleable like the radar, maybe hit E to toggle it? But its also disabled when you shoot.

What's the logic behind that? Your night vision goggles don't disable and fall off when you crawl on the floor...

Because I could wear them 24/7 making proxi's 100% useless.

maybe make them so that if u put too many down then they all blow up and kill nebody in the range of explosion, including teamates

Think realistically man.

I'm saying make them visible anyway.

...or not

But, when you have a mine detector on, you can see a big green Box around them making mines 100% useless. If they were just visible and you had no mine detector on, you can still see them, but there isn't a massive green box to point them out entirely.

Just let all classes use the minedetector and add some way to destroy proxies that all classes can use.

Ok so let's make proxys visible again and rename mine detector to night vision.

Make some dark inside with ambush spots.

Great idea :)

proxis should be made so you can hold 1000 again :'(

Good idea sayain! then we can lame by the 1000's instead of 100's!! :) I like the diea of a buyable one that is always working but toggled. No offense to vulcan their creater but mine detectors are kinda ugly and need a makeover nd smaller. Thats like something you would imagine they use today. Whatever its not a big deal thogh

a scarey thought there sayian, and the thing i said earlier would really work, like only 50 of ur mines should work.. but then u need a detector that tells u ur limit..

learn what your talking about before you post please. it wasnt vulcans idea for a minedetector. from what i remember, stefan pm'd me asking how i felt about invisable mines...i told him i liked it, he made it. then i told him we need a way to see the mines though, he told me to design the mine detector...so i edited the teamspeak monitor thing, and made the mine detector x-x

SO ITS YOUR FAULT!

h8 u 4 lyfe

Sorry sayain i Just don't like it. The mine detector that is

I dont think proxies should be visible. They are a good stealthy way to kill people, and you have to be defensive about sneaking into a base.

The mine detector you should be able to use and ALSO wield dual pistols/a rifle, but the mine detector should use energy that way you can't just have it on all the time; you have to use it strategicly.

thats what stealthmines would be for

Okay, so, what would the point of having a stealthmine and a proximity mine be? you know no one would ever buy the proximity mines again.

How often do you play zone? Play CTF, get continously killed by mines... Then go to get your trusty mine detector, and get continously killed by people with guns, but you can't take any out because you have a stupid mine detector on...

Yeah, I play plenty, and I know how it is. Its not fair because it is a good method of defense. If you cant handle it, then you should learn to use a jetpack and get around them maybe?

Making proxies visible won't do anything but make them USELESS.

Not really and Ive never seen you on

You must really suck if you can't get kills with visible proxi mines. You can hide them under things, such as tree leaves, boxes, barrels, etc.

Wrong. They were visible before they were made invisible. They were just fine the way they were. They are proximity mines, which means they explode when you get near them, not stealth hiding mines.

Your telling me how to play...
I should tell you, proxies will only be useless if you make them. If you can't handle it, then you should learn to use visible proxies the proper way maybe?

ok to stop all the *****ing and to make Proxys make sense i demaned a Re name from Proxy mines (i dunno how tp spell it) to Stealth Mnes!

Stop posting, please. Proxies on CTF are way overpowered.

I think its jsut that there are only about 3 places without jp to enter and if those a re mined then you hve to jp or explode them

1. Proximity mines were fine visible, I got plenty of kills by hiding them.
2. CTF isn't -fun- when you're scouting for proxi mines every damned time you go for the flag and get killed because you can't have a decent defense, because you're scouting for them. Also, most of the time people are glitching the proxis anyways >.>

i agree with cronos idea,proxies ARE ***.

you should know...u got me with em about a few times
i payed for gold+vip ima do wat i can with it take to the max =/

That's good for you.

I Only Prox If The Enemy Is A Strafing,Annoying Person

lol caps

Or if you have a bounty over zero.

Which actually doesn't happen often because as soon as he walks into a PK zone he dies anyway. Or logs. =P