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KuJi 08-09-2006 12:07 PM
Graal X - odamn
 
Some nice pics of Graal X :)

Kae, Me, and Wil.
http://graalx.us/graal_1155089516.png

Grenade Wars - This events so hoooot :O
http://graalx.us/graal_1155080058.png

Same as above - but 1v1v1v1 (Defaultaccount won)
http://graalx.us/graal_1155080058.png

King of the Hill - Contiga cheats ( I SWEAR :O )
http://graalx.us/graal_1154962263.png

Race - Race to the end!
http://graalx.us/graal_1154959050.png

I started probally the laggiest fire EVER :o
http://graalx.us/graal_1154867312.png

And Now I am trapped in the middle of the laggiest fire due to walking over a land mine :O
http://graalx.us/graal_1154845346.png

Chris vs Vulcan in CTF (last two remaining out of about 10-20 people)
http://graalx.us/graal_1154810839.png

Vulcan won - of course. (He cheated by healing in a bed - but Chris was shotgunning vulcan up the whole time :P)

WanDaMan 08-09-2006 12:08 PM
Looks like Era. Anyway, stop bloody sending me messages about joining Graal X or something >:O

KuJi 08-09-2006 12:20 PM
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Originally Posted by WanDaMan
Looks like Era. Anyway, stop bloody sending me messages about joining Graal X or something >:O
Not me kthx - it's one of my slaves tho :P

And btw - all that is is events... Infact people say every "modern" IS era, but only Era can be Era because it is so damn laggy - everyone lame - and every weapon is totally different in power and unequal.

EX: Katana vs Any-gun

Besides - why wasn't the Katana nerfed after after distributions of 30+?

Spark910 08-09-2006 12:29 PM
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Originally Posted by KuJi
Infact people say every "modern" IS era
Because everyone fails to modernise from the Era tileset look.

While there may be only so much you can do, the levels do look like Era for the reason that those levels would look like Era fine, and for all I know I'd believe you if you turned around and said "SUPRISE, ITS ACTUALLY A SCREENSHOT OF ERA" as so many things look similar/same such as floors, walls, carpet, plants, notes of paper, doors. Heck, why have those grey tiles with the light grey line become a standard 'moden' tile? While, again, I think you are limited, I think you could do much more to at least look a lot different.

KuJi 08-09-2006 12:44 PM
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Originally Posted by Spark910
Because everyone fails to modernise from the Era tileset look.

While there may be only so much you can do, the levels do look like Era for the reason that those levels would look like Era fine, and for all I know I'd believe you if you turned around and said "SUPRISE, ITS ACTUALLY A SCREENSHOT OF ERA" as so many things look similar/same such as floors, walls, carpet, plants, notes of paper, doors. Heck, why have those grey tiles with the light grey line become a standard 'moden' tile? While, again, I think you are limited, I think you could do much more to at least look a lot different.
Eeeh, not as easy as you think :o.
a) If I gfxed - god.. GX would be so hawt.. but i don't.

http://graalx.us/graal_1155120218.png

Hows' that level look? lol

Spark910 08-09-2006 02:40 PM
Yeah, I know it's not easy. But unless you change things people will call it Era as it looks like Era. I know Graal X was quite popular when it was last online, but if you ever want to convert Era players or players who don't play Era but may be interested in GraalX then you need to get rid of the 'Era' look, else they will log on, think they've seen it all before (which they have in terms of looks, as it looks quite like era) and not give it a chance!

The screenshot you attached is better, even though the colours have only changed, we're away from this Era look which is predominately black and grey - so avoiding those colours where possible will always be a good thing to avoid being labled Era.

KuJi 08-09-2006 02:41 PM
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Originally Posted by Spark910
Yeah, I know it's not easy. But unless you change things people will call it Era as it looks like Era. I know Graal X was quite popular when it was last online, but if you ever want to convert Era players or players who don't play Era but may be interested in GraalX then you need to get rid of the 'Era' look, else they will log on, think they've seen it all before (which they have in terms of looks, as it looks quite like era) and not give it a chance!

The screenshot you attached is better, even though the colours have only changed, we're away from this Era look which is predominately black and grey - so avoiding those colours where possible will always be a good thing to avoid being labled Era.
Hmm, and yeah. I got pics of GX hitting over 50 recently. I'll put some up for yee in a bit.

*Edit* Here :p
http://www.graalx.us/2xera.bmp
http://www.graalx.us/gxlot.bmp
http://www.graalx.us/overera.bmp

Crono 08-09-2006 04:03 PM
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Looks too much like Era. Put guns on shelves not tables, change some inside tiles. Why is your HP/AP just like Era's? (HP and Armor points right on top of player in almost the exact same format).

When I said change your inside tile, refer to attached. That's in your hospital and is a typical Era tileset wall. :O

KuJi 08-09-2006 04:59 PM
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Originally Posted by Gerami
Looks too much like Era. Put guns on shelves not tables, change some inside tiles. Why is your HP/AP just like Era's? (HP and Armor points right on top of player in almost the exact same format).

When I said change your inside tile, refer to attached. That's in your hospital and is a typical Era tileset wall. :O
Show me on era? That's been on GX for years x.x

Very different to me - if this is what ur referring too.

lancelot9 08-10-2006 12:25 AM
Lol.. nothing on the graal x tileset it stolen from era.. im pretty dang sure

also, Nobody can seem to modernize from the era tileset look? wth is that supposed to mean, its modern, and people with less talent tend to have similar styles (Ofcourse i dont mean any offence to anyone ofcourse) but thats just the way things go. The tiles on era, and the tiles on graal x are very simple, and they are modern, so they look the same.

Now ask yourself... era has been around for like 5-6 years now.. wth dont they have better tiles if non-public servers have just as good, and some of the non-public servers have only been around for a few months.

KuJi 08-10-2006 12:27 AM
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Haha, thanks for your support lance <3

*Edit* Attached GX's tileset - Help find the stolen and kill the gfxers.. like omg!

Skyld 08-10-2006 12:32 AM
yay. era, 79th edition.

Crono 08-10-2006 12:33 AM
I'm talking about the wall to roof style. Both tile wise and level style wise it's an Era thing.

KuJi 08-10-2006 12:34 AM
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Originally Posted by Skyld
yay. era, 79th edition.
You should scratch about 77 numbers if you are too even call it an Era - it's been developing (and started) in 2003 about a day after the release of pay-per-pws. And so.. I win :)

Crono 08-10-2006 01:01 AM
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Originally Posted by KuJi
You should scratch about 77 numbers if you are too even call it an Era - it's been developing (and started) in 2003 about a day after the release of pay-per-pws. And so.. I win :)
Late 2003, by the way. Almost a year after Era was released.

Yes I do realize Era or something was released before in the past but no one cares, we all assume era started 2003. =x

KuJi 08-10-2006 01:21 AM
Went public in 03, i think it more-started in 02.

Sum41Freeeeek 08-10-2006 01:54 AM
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I took some tiles from each tileset and compared them. Indeed, you can see
that whoever made the GX tileset definatly took some of Era's tiles, and or,
modified.

Pretty much each comparison is obvious, but the last one, take a close look,
it's the same gfx style! The person who made GX's tileset is different than the
person that made Era's tileset, and I'm sure they both don't have the same
style.

Keep in mind GX is left and Era is right.

Oh, and the obvious one is the rounded sidewalks which originated in Era.

KuJi 08-10-2006 01:59 AM
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Originally Posted by Sum41Freeeeek
I took some tiles from each tileset and compared them. Indeed, you can see
that whoever made the GX tileset definatly took some of Era's tiles, and or,
modified.

Pretty much each comparison is obvious, but the last one, take a close look,
it's the same gfx style! The person who made GX's tileset is different than the
person that made Era's tileset, and I'm sure they both don't have the same
style.

Keep in mind GX is left and Era is right.

Oh, and the obvious one is the rounded sidewalks which originated in Era.
And I got to say that in each "modify" GX's looks hawter - owow ;O. ( i am not saying its modified)

*edit* Please change the radio song :O!

Sum41Freeeeek 08-10-2006 02:02 AM
It's not what looks better.
It's the fact that none of these modern servers have any originality. That's why they always suck and never make it to the "big" servers. GX is just Era with smaller and harder to dodge bullets, rip off guns (bher2, ap7s) and a tileset that looks like a four yearold drew it. To top that off, each of the staff members pretty much sucks at their job and was hired upon asking. (Wil is my main example)

KuJi 08-10-2006 02:32 AM
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Originally Posted by Sum41Freeeeek
It's not what looks better.
It's the fact that none of these modern servers have any originality. That's why they always suck and never make it to the "big" servers. GX is just Era with smaller and harder to dodge bullets, rip off guns (bher2, ap7s) and a tileset that looks like a four yearold drew it. To top that off, each of the staff members pretty much sucks at their job and was hired upon asking. (Wil is my main example)
Wil was fired in a day, and about hired upon asking haha.. Haven't hired a member in so long to an actual dev team and kept my current one.

And about the "big servers". In 2 years not one server besides Zone (and enigma for 2-3 weeks) hit classic while being paid for. And i doubt it'll change because simply it's just to make money while these people play around and joke around.

Not one server in years to come will most likely hit classic from being paid for while keeping the same owner who started it (as in - without stefan taking over aka Zone)

Sum41Freeeeek 08-10-2006 02:46 AM
That's because most of the people that own servers are just rich people that have no skills, whatsoever.
I'm sure it's possible.

KuJi 08-10-2006 02:57 AM
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Originally Posted by Sum41Freeeeek
That's because most of the people that own servers are just rich people that have no skills, whatsoever.
I'm sure it's possible.
Graal is very limited, as much as I am sure stefan and otehrs may doubt it. I've been waitign for G3D so I can start working on a modern 3d server :). That's something new?

Spark910 08-10-2006 03:17 AM
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Originally Posted by KuJi
Graal is very limited, as much as I am sure stefan and otehrs may doubt it. I've been waitign for G3D so I can start working on a modern 3d server :). That's something new?
But if you can't do your own 2d tileset as you wish, how will you make all the graphics you require for a 3d world? At least with 2d what you see is what you will get, 3d textures come in weird shapes and forms!

KuJi 08-10-2006 04:20 AM
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Originally Posted by Spark910
But if you can't do your own 2d tileset as you wish, how will you make all the graphics you require for a 3d world? At least with 2d what you see is what you will get, 3d textures come in weird shapes and forms!
o.O? What do you mean "as you wish".


I am going to do what all developers on Graal do.. steal :O! (at least 40%)

lancelot9 08-10-2006 05:02 AM
Lol..
obviouse rounded sidewalks which originated in era.
Dude, walk outside. youll find them there, believe it or not.

and also, Those tiles arent the same..
sure they might be of the same type of thing, but no one goes between UN and Val and compares the wooden doors to eachother or anything.

Its a modern server, so is era, so ofcourse some of the tiles will be the same, its just gunna happen. especially with the walls or the tops of them, theres not much other ways to make them, so they are always alot alike.

plus era has proven some techniques better than others, so why wouldnt they use them? Its the same for any type of server.

KuJi 08-10-2006 05:03 AM
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Originally Posted by lancelot9
Lol..
obviouse rounded sidewalks which originated in era.
Dude, walk outside. youll find them there, believe it or not.
Lolownt.

Hey.. what about the streets that originated outside - Era stole them! I am sueing

lancelot9 08-10-2006 05:06 AM
yes yes true.
Wait KuJi... your not making brick buildings.. which obviously originated in era.. are you? How could you do such a thing?

KuJi 08-10-2006 05:20 AM
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Originally Posted by lancelot9
yes yes true.
Wait KuJi... your not making brick buildings.. which obviously originated in era.. are you? How could you do such a thing?
Uhh... not the worst part.. I made grass for people to walk on! AND TREES OMGAWD... EVEN TABLES

lancelot9 08-10-2006 05:40 AM
KuJi.
WTH man.. Grass i can understand.. trees is pushing it.. but tables? Why... that obviously originated in era and you stole it. Therefore your server sucks.

KuJi 08-10-2006 05:42 AM
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Originally Posted by lancelot9
KuJi.
WTH man.. Grass i can understand.. trees is pushing it.. but tables? Why... that obviously originated in era and you stole it. Therefore your server sucks.
Damn.. can I at least use a tileset for Graal X.. or did that originate on era too :(

lancelot9 08-10-2006 05:44 AM
Obviously originated in era.

KuJi 08-10-2006 05:53 AM
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Originally Posted by lancelot9
Obviously originated in era.
Shoulda knew - is it bad to use scripts? :o..

lancelot9 08-10-2006 05:55 AM
Ofcourse it is..

Look KuJi, if you have a modern server, and you have things similar to era you are not original and you suck.

KuJi 08-10-2006 05:57 AM
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Originally Posted by lancelot9
Ofcourse it is..

Look KuJi, if you have a modern server, and you have things similar to era you are not original and you suck.
(*****)

So.. then.. can I have a level? What can I have.. whats sthe purpose of playing.. so I can be called I am suck or be awsuem with no levels/scripts/anything?

lancelot9 08-10-2006 06:01 AM
No.
No modern anything you un-original piece of monkey fecies.

you MUST have classic or midieval tiles to be even considered original. duh. where have you been for the past 4 years?
and also no knives, those originated in era

KuJi 08-10-2006 06:03 AM
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No.
No modern anything you un-original piece of monkey fecies.

you MUST have classic or midieval tiles to be even considered original. duh. where have you been for the past 4 years?
and also no knives, those originated in era
Swords.. like a katana?!

MysticalDragon 08-10-2006 06:32 AM
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Yeah, I know it's not easy. But unless you change things people will call it Era as it looks like Era. I know Graal X was quite popular when it was last online, but if you ever want to convert Era players or players who don't play Era but may be interested in GraalX then you need to get rid of the 'Era' look, else they will log on, think they've seen it all before (which they have in terms of looks, as it looks quite like era) and not give it a chance!

The screenshot you attached is better, even though the colours have only changed, we're away from this Era look which is predominately black and grey - so avoiding those colours where possible will always be a good thing to avoid being labled Era.
Yes I agree, it is possible to make a modern server look nothing like era. "Example Bravo Evolved!"
If anyone remembers it was a great Modern playerworld.But I'am not indicateing GraalX isnt great aswell.Alot of those tiles (GraalX) look nothing like Eras but some are similar but then again different aswell.
I see no rip.

KuJi 08-10-2006 06:50 AM
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Originally Posted by MysticalDragon
Yes I agree, it is possible to make a modern server look nothing like era. "Example Bravo Evolved!"
If anyone remembers it was a great Modern playerworld.But I'am not indicateing GraalX isnt great aswell.Alot of those tiles (GraalX) look nothing like Eras but some are similar but then again different aswell.
I see no rip.
I remember that - Era stole the gym from it - OMFG!

Sum41Freeeeek 08-10-2006 06:54 AM
Do you guys call up eachother each morning and ask how you're going to act like idiots on the forums?

Just because both servers are modern doesn't mean it's going to have the same GFX.
There is a difference between making tiles from scratch and copying + pasting from
other tilesets. I would bet money if Era kept "square" sidewalks, you guys would have
them. Since the GFXer making the tileset was ripping from Era's, they would of never
thought about rounded sidewalks because they have no imagination or originality.
Instead, they rip off of Era. So yeah, be quiet, that sums up you two little geek attack
posting back and fourth.

Now, the Classic tileset is the public, and standard tileset. N-pulses' tileset is a fixed
up form of it. You can't fix up and take Era's tileset, seeing as how it's public and
private servers shouldn't be able to use it.

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Look KuJi, if you have a modern server, and you have things similar to era you are not original and you suck.
Only because you rip off of everything they have.
DIDN'T ANYONE NOTICE THAT GX HAS ERA'S BHERV2 AND AP7'S?!?!?
They even stole the bher2's flip ganis.
That's why you are so unoriginal, everything Era has, you have.
Even TWEE, you guys have. How ****ing sad is that?

Face it, you are a complete ripoff, don't use "lol dere both modern servers wat
do u expect" as an excuse.

KuJi 08-10-2006 07:07 AM
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Originally Posted by Sum41Freeeeek
Do you guys call up eachother each morning and ask how you're going to act like idiots on the forums?

Just because both servers are modern doesn't mean it's going to have the same GFX.
There is a difference between making tiles from scratch and copying + pasting from
other tilesets. I would bet money if Era kept "square" sidewalks, you guys would have
them. Since the GFXer making the tileset was ripping from Era's, they would of never
thought about rounded sidewalks because they have no imagination or originality.
Instead, they rip off of Era. So yeah, be quiet, that sums up you two little geek attack
posting back and fourth.

Now, the Classic tileset is the public, and standard tileset. N-pulses' tileset is a fixed
up form of it. You can't fix up and take Era's tileset, seeing as how it's public and
private servers shouldn't be able to use it.


Only because you rip off of everything they have.
DIDN'T ANYONE NOTICE THAT GX HAS ERA'S BHERV2 AND AP7'S?!?!?
They even stole the bher2's flip ganis.
That's why you are so unoriginal, everything Era has, you have.
Even TWEE, you guys have. How ****ing sad is that?

Face it, you are a complete ripoff, don't use "lol dere both modern servers wat
do u expect" as an excuse.
Did you know that a lot of eras tileset was taken from New Worlds tileset? No you don't.

The event "TWEE" was more of a joke about how stupid it was and how we decide to keep people up for 14 hours idling just for the hell of it while we goto sleep or do something else.

Next, no one fixed up eras tileset. Those tiles are only alike to do the idea of them - but they are custom made and easily noticable. And huh @ the guns?


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