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Zideruic 06-12-2006 01:40 AM

A...crate?
 
http://i12.photobucket.com/albums/a2...cratefront.png

A crate I made for killerogue.

Zero Hour 06-12-2006 03:24 AM

Looks too shiny, and the texture you almost had going is completely lost because of the black line you used to seperate the top and front.

The tone difference, if applied properly, should be enough.

Zideruic 06-12-2006 07:39 AM

http://i12.photobucket.com/albums/a2...ruic/boat2.png


This was my attempt at a boat...advise please.

Elk 06-12-2006 08:08 AM

Too shiny, still

Zideruic 06-12-2006 08:26 AM

How do you suggest I make it less shiny? I guess I don't understand.

Elk 06-12-2006 08:49 AM

You need to find a point where its shiny...
I can't really show it now, I'm currently at school

Nitkizi 06-12-2006 09:03 AM

It also looks like it's only 2 inches wide.

Elk 06-12-2006 09:14 AM

You also need to work on the texture

Zideruic 06-12-2006 06:52 PM

Alright 'll work on that for the future, thanks.

http://i12.photobucket.com/albums/a2...ruic/boat3.png

Is this a bit better?

Curt1zzle 06-12-2006 08:07 PM

Slightly

Draenin 06-12-2006 08:19 PM

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The highlights / shadows are put in the wrong place. You have been shading stuff in strip patterns instead of shading what parts should be. When you shade in strips instead of around edges or in the center, your object comes off looking a bit like cellophane. Please note what I've done in the image below.

Galdor 06-12-2006 09:15 PM

why r there 3 shining spots I think it looks odd

Draenin 06-12-2006 09:29 PM

What three spots do you mean?

Sage_Shadowbane 06-12-2006 09:51 PM

I like the design, But it is a bit shiny in certain points where it should not be. I also dont very much like how flat it looks :frown:. But overall just work on your lighting.

Galdor 06-12-2006 09:52 PM

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Originally Posted by Draenin
What three spots do you mean?

>.>

http://img461.imageshack.us/my.php?image=those3mt.png

Sage_Shadowbane 06-12-2006 09:56 PM

Also...I dont really think boats are shaped like that x_x , I believe that they are boxed at one end and than come to a point, but correct me if im wrong.

Zideruic 06-12-2006 09:57 PM

Not ALL boats are designed the same way.

Sage_Shadowbane 06-12-2006 10:00 PM

Well i've never seen a boat that was completely rounded like that x_x, and even if a boat was rounded on both ends, it would be alot more narrow and both ends would still come to a point. :rolleyes:

Draenin 06-12-2006 10:10 PM

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Originally Posted by Galdor

Ohhh. I thought you were referring to mine. I was confused.
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Originally Posted by Sage_Shadowbane
Well i've never seen a boat that was completely rounded like that x_x, and even if a boat was rounded on both ends, it would be alot more narrow and both ends would still come to a point.

Think of a barge, not a canoe.

Zideruic 06-12-2006 10:12 PM

http://i12.photobucket.com/albums/a2...ruic/boat4.png

I kind of fixed the shininess i think...


Or you could think of an ark.

Draenin 06-12-2006 10:14 PM

You took the shinyness away, but now there's not much shading at all.

Sage_Shadowbane 06-12-2006 10:14 PM

Oh rofl, I forgot about barges. >_<

Zideruic 06-12-2006 10:14 PM

I think I give up lol

Curt1zzle 06-12-2006 10:23 PM

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Originally Posted by Zideruic
I think I give up lol


Why give up? Look at your first image and look at this one.

You've made vast improvements.

Zideruic 06-12-2006 10:25 PM

Lol so how can I shade that without using 500000 colors?

Draenin 06-12-2006 10:35 PM

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Easy. Take a look at this please. In the first spot, I have how you shaded the crate before. You shaded it in diagonal strips. In the second spot, I have how I would shade it, moving all the shadows into spots they would belong. In the third spot, I added in detailing to shift the focus off of the object's normal shading in order for the object's shading to become a less apparent, more discrete feature.

Elk 06-12-2006 10:36 PM

Never seen such a small boat like that in a square form =)!

Zideruic 06-12-2006 10:41 PM

Thanks for the advice, I'll try that in a bit.

http://i12.photobucket.com/albums/a2...c/f9f91ae3.png

I tried some simple shading, i think it made it look a tiny bit better.

Draenin 06-12-2006 11:09 PM

Yeah, a little bit. Remember that there's stuff other than the outside of the boat, though. Shade some of the inner planks the same way you did the outer ones.

Zero Hour 06-12-2006 11:32 PM

The perspective on that barge is wrong. It doesn't bend down enough on the side which is closest to you.

ViCtOrEhEhEh 06-12-2006 11:49 PM

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Originally Posted by Zero Hour
The perspective on that barge is wrong. It doesn't bend down enough on the side which is closest to you.

Sorry not all of us here design boats.

Myomoto 06-12-2006 11:55 PM

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Originally Posted by ViCtOrEhEhEh
Sorry not all of us here design boats.

So boats are the only object in the world your able screw the perspective up on? :confused:

Zero Hour 06-13-2006 12:17 AM

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Originally Posted by Myomoto
So boats are the only object in the world your able screw the perspective up on? :confused:

It's OKAY, let him be petty.

Curt1zzle 06-13-2006 12:19 AM

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Originally Posted by Zero Hour
It's OKAY, let him be petty.

If it makes you feel better, his sister is hot. :eek:

Zideruic 06-13-2006 01:17 AM

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Originally Posted by Draenin
Yeah, a little bit. Remember that there's stuff other than the outside of the boat, though. Shade some of the inner planks the same way you did the outer ones.

alright, again back to microsoft paint =P

ViCtOrEhEhEh 06-13-2006 01:50 AM

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Originally Posted by Curt1zzle
If it makes you feel better, his sister is hot. :eek:

!pissed! SHH! Also, I'm just saying Zero, he doesnt have to make a perfect boat. We arent all the best GFXers like me (rofl).

Draenin 06-13-2006 02:11 AM

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Originally Posted by Victoryournameisannoyingtotype
Also, I'm just saying Zero, he doesnt have to make a perfect boat.

Zero never implied that he had to. Don't spaz just because someone points out an error. You make mistakes, you try to fix them, and in the process, learn something new.
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Originally Posted by Victoryouneedanaccountnamechange
We arent all the best GFXers like me (rofl).

Do I even need to say anything about how rediculous this statement is?

Zero Hour 06-13-2006 02:31 AM

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Originally Posted by Draenin
Do I even need to say anything about how rediculous this statement is?

I believe he humorously referring to his graphics "tutorials". Which is fine, and slightly amusing :)

Zideruic 06-13-2006 09:14 PM

http://i12.photobucket.com/albums/a2...ruic/boat7.png

Alright....7th revision...tell me how I'm doing.

Curt1zzle 06-13-2006 09:17 PM

Slightly better.


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